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I should also point out that this film benefits from what I call "The Easy Watch Factor". Basically it's not drawn out or tiring, it doesn't drag thanks to its well structured plot and consistent pacing. It flows well.
I agree with you. It strikes the perfect balance between worldbuilding, giving homage to the first part, character depth and a stunning visual show and soundtrack. At least Jeff Bridges character wasn't butchered like Mark Hamils Luke Skywalker
This is one of my fave films of all time. Easy top 10. Amazing visuals, great action, great characters, amazing soundtrack. The fact that Disney refused to give it a sequel is criminal. Completely outrageous. There was even a sequel green lit at one point, but Disney pulled the plug. I guess it's Star Wars or Marvel now. Nothing else is allowed.
I feel like there's a whole other philosophical layer beneath the shiny grid depicted, creating something that's your idea of perfection only to have it turn on you because you don't measure up in it's eyes. At it's heart its a film about control vs. "Just letting it happen Man"
I completely agree. When it first came out the ONLY thing that drove me to watch it was the online enthusiasm of the fan boys, especially that small clip from comic con. But, when I finally saw it, on the small screen, with that incredible sound track in place... holy hell.
Nice job Dave! I’d argue the film needs to metaphorically make sense in order to maintain relevance over time and since the original made very little sense except for its ‘age of computers’ excitement, the connective thread seems to be Jeff Bridges himself. This makes the uncanny valley issue a hard one to get over and puts a ton of pressure on the casting of his son. While I think Olivia Wild holds up as a curio in and of herself, I find there was no way Garret Hedlund was going to carry the film, especially over an idealized execution of another computational metaphor miscarriage (the convoluted means of the emergence of AI). My bet is that over time Tron: Legacy will fall into a cinematic group that suffers from the same trope as a newly remodeled Home Depot house from the same era - temporarily pretty but ultimately empty/disposable, making it painfully clear that this intellectual property is in no way linked to quality but a nostalgic love for 80’s cinema magic. I apologize for the dissenting view! Love your channel! Keep up the great work!!
Part of me thinks that a 3rd film is inevitable....and part of me thinks it would be really cool if there was almost even spacing between the first two films and these next two. 28 years between the first and 2nd....I think it would make sense to have another long gap between the 2nd and 3rd. Granted, not 28 years....that would be crazy. But I like the idea of the next film being a solid 10-15 years later...allowing for a large passage of time between films, and for a significant amount of advancements in CGI.
I don't mind the "uncanny valley" of the character CLU because he is a computer program. I found it to be a good movie, and, I think, better than the first one. The special effects for the time were amazing, but it doesn't really hold up. I think the thing I like most about this movie is it's story, and the soundtrack.
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It's easy to hate on a classic like TRON but to make a movie with so much Rotoscoping effects was unheard of as it was incredibly tedious and time consuming to do. The soundtrack by Wendy Carlos is every bit as good as the venerable one he did for Clockwork Orange. If science fiction movies were taken seriously back in the 1980's which they weren't Wendy would've won best soundtrack.
This movie made several big mistakes which didn't catch on with audiences.. The lead is unknown and not very good. Tron barely had a role until the every end. If the movie is called Tron, he should of have larger role. This should of been like escape from NY with Flynn escaping also. No one cares about the son. Daft Punk was best part of film and music.
The business will keep booming. “The market is the market is the market”, if people want mindless popcorn flicks that possess no real substance, they’ll keep producing it. The Transformers franchise is the perfect example of this. Ooo, and also pushing forward their NWO agendas in movies and wiggling their way into peoples’ subconscious for the long term, that’s a plus for them too.
Movie should have been called Flynn returns. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie but I wanted TRON. It certainly could have been easily fixed. Being in virtual reality, the original Flynn could have uploaded a younger version of himself or a previous version of Tron to reboot.
Still waiting for a sequel. The fact Disney is waiting on this is bad news. Those actors aren't getting any younger. From what iv read the third one would be the final one in the trilogy. And so far Disney is just keeping it on ice. Especially now with the acquisition of Marvel and Fox they have their hands full with very successful franchises they don't really care so far about making a third one which sucks.
TRON was all about the technical achievement of making a movie so effects laden that it spent an almost hand-animated amount of time in post. Now-a-days that is literally so common I it makes older movies on closed and built set feel claustrophobic by comparison.
TRON 2 was not about the technical. Instead, it was about building on the world created in TRON, making it believable, and making it a place we want to visit again. And it nailed it. I especially love it's subtle nods to transhumanism. (Kevin) Flynn has clearly bought into the notion that humans are hackable in the grid and believes that because of that we *should* go there to do this. And yet this is kept subtle so everyone can have their popcorn flick. If you know transhumanism, or even buy into it (I'm more the former than the latter), then TRON 2's undertones are noticeable, but if you're not it's still an enjoyable film. And that's no small achievement. Underrated indeed.
The Recognizers did ONE THING: Stomp. THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.
The LightCycles did ONE THING: Superfast turns at right angles. THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.
ONE THING. One ICONIC THING. That's all they needed to do.
oh yes that movie was awesome. but it has a huge extra kicker if you knew tron from your childhood.
same happened for me with dune (game and then the original movie) i didn't realy like the redone version in 2 or 3 movies
back to tron .. watch it in a 100% dark room on a as huge as possible screen .. cinema would be perfect .. because .. the sounds are increddible (some of daft punks best works), realy something you schould watch if you like the slightly nostalgic idea of futurism of the older days
This movie blew me away back when it first came out. I'm sure it'll gain a cult following in the near future. Just need a popular internet critic to post a review and bring awareness. Like Nostalgia Critic did with The Room
Cannot agree less with you here. Tron : Legacy is a failure of epic proportion. The characters are empty and clueless. Garret Hedlund is... dah. Olivia Wilde is just another hot chick in a tight costume. Michael Sheene is ridiculous and useless. Bruce Boxleitner : doesn't anybody remember that the film's name is... "Tron" ? Where is he ? You'll tell me : he is there, all the while. And my answer is : no, he is not ! We see him, maybe for two seconds in the movie. The rest of the movie we see some guy in a suit with a helmet ! It could be anybody ! Who cares ? Certainly not the producers or the director. The whole damn thing is not even about him ! It's actually about some PHYSICAL invasion of our world by CLU's forces ! What the... What ?!!? Who wrote this thing ? Some ape ?
Plus, the use of female characters in this film is so characteristic of the use of female characters in Hollywood since... forever (and no, I'm not a feminist). What happened to Lora/Yori ? We have no clue. She is not even mentionned ! Oh, and we learn that Kevin Flynn got married at some point, had a son... and then his wife died from cancer ! How bloody convenient !
In fact, the whole thing can be summed up in one quote at the start of the movie : when Edward Dillinger Jr presents to the board his new project, Alan Bradley objects to its release, implying that it is just a scam, to which Dillinger candidly admit it's true ! The new project is the exact same thing than the previous version... under another number !
I think that sums up the whole thing beautifully (so much that I wonder if that was not done on purpose). "Tron" was a great film. "Tron : Legacy" is nothing, nothing but an empty, useless scam. Thank god that they pulled the plug on an other sequel.
This is the kind of movie for which I just don't go anymore to theaters. I have got a brain and I do not want to be treated as a hapless walking wallet !
Thank you very much
Disney is currently building a TRON coaster in Walt Disney World. While having no distinct story, it takes places in the TRON 2.0 world. It's silly of me. But I'm holding out hope that there might be another one in my lifetime. The cartoon was pretty good, too.
I was really disappointed. The Grid looked terrible, worse than the original (and before you try it, these same nostalgia glasses thinks Blade Runner 2 looked incredible). The soundtrack is amazing of course, I still listen to it to this day
I would have loved a sequel to this. Or at least an MMO or some kind of role playing game that would let you create your own character and have some impact in the world of The Grid. Like Star Wars Knights of The Old Republic or something. They made a really interesting and fun world with this movie and it's a shame that it stands alone in one movie, a tv show, and a couple of mediocre video games. At least we have this one movie that is as fun to watch as it is to listen to. It sucks that it got smashed by critics as much as it did though.
The Music was good, but the Film was a little simple and it's funny on the things you like I completely agree with you, but on the things you don't like because of political reasons I disagree with you. Not that that's a real problem, I just hear you mention SJW or other key words and I stop listening.
I am not an SJW btw, I am neither an anti SJW or and SJW I see points on both sides, but also think both sides are nuts... It leaves me with no one to listen to who I can agree with even 70% of the time on this subject because almost everyone has picked a side and will not be moderated.
Again it's not a problem, but I would like to have someone to talk to / listen to so I can further develop my opinions without listening to people who I personally think have went off the deep end on this subject.
Tron: Legacy doesn't do the title of the movie justice.
I did like the initial setup, the premise of Flynn disappearing and leaving a son (but no mention of a wife) behind. The biggest problem I had (and still have) with the film is that the time taken from Sam getting a messenger on a pager, to getting drawn into the computer, too almost no time at all. As much as I wanted to see all the stuff promised in trailers and on billboards etc, I also wanted to understand the modern sensibilities of ENCOM and its current employees.
The film makes little attempt to create any actual tension... We all know Sam will escape, and (from the setup in the movie) we know Flynn will go all 'Obi-Wan' and sacrifice himself at the end... If you didn't see that coming, well you really shouldn't be watching movies.. You should be trying to colour in between the lines...
All the actors, apart from Jeff Bridges, are just boring to watch and two-dimensional as characters. The much lauded CGI work (and the 'added at the last minute' 3D effects) don't carry the same level of wonder that amazed my 6 year old self when I saw Tron at the cinema in 1982.
Oh, and some people have mentioned the 'amazing' soundtrack... Perhaps it is, if you're 10 years old and think it matches the visuals in any way!