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I should also point out that this film benefits from what I call "The Easy Watch Factor". Basically it's not drawn out or tiring, it doesn't drag thanks to its well structured plot and consistent pacing. It flows well.
I found that Tron: Legacy used a successful formula as well. The IT jabs about corporate interests vs. 70s idealism hit home well tool.
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I agree with you. It strikes the perfect balance between worldbuilding, giving homage to the first part, character depth and a stunning visual show and soundtrack. At least Jeff Bridges character wasn't butchered like Mark Hamils Luke Skywalker
I absolutely loved this movie. I was addicted to the soundtrack for about a year, and now that I think about it, I should give it another listen to. I was horribly disappointed about them cancelling any future movies. In my mind this movie was a raging success. All of the little things that people seem to complain about were exactly the things that gave the movie its charm. I enjoyed the look and feel of CLU. I enjoyed the storyline, the ISO's, I was extremely saddened by that part of the storyline. I was saddened about what happened to Tron. I was uplifted by the ending when the girl could finally feel the sun and see what the world really looks like. The Grid itself felt electric, static, high energy, like a plasma discharge. They captured every element of this movie so perfectly, and I feel strongly that at some point in time it's going to turn into a cult classic, there will be a following and masses of people are going to start crying out for another installment of this franchise. In a world of SJW bullshit, this movie stayed true to its roots and delivered an astounding performance.
For the first time ever I have to disagree with you - hurts me to say that too - I loved the original Tron - saw it in the theater when it came out and loved it - but this new Tron was not very good - I had trouble watching as it lost my attention
I'm still pissed that Disney canned the sequels for this. One of the few reboot/re-imagining films that was really great.
I also really didn't mind the weird CGI for Clu and in fact, in this particular world it actually *works* a bit in the character's favor in my opinion. It's a digital world - a little not-quite-right, not-quite-human element that it brings is actually a creepy good thing. :)
Tron the arcade game was awesome and then the film came out not too far behind so it really did have a gamer following and probably opened up the doors for future game/film movies. loved the film and still watch the original every so often.
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I love this movie! The visuals alone affect me in a way that few other films have. I really like the themes presented. While I somewhat agree that the plot could have been more substantial, I think it works very well and I like that it’s not heavy handed. I also really like Olivia Wilde and Jeff Bridges. Clu is also a menacing villain and I was kind of unnerved whenever he came on screen.
It’s nice to see other people praise this movie. I was crushed when I heard that Tron 3 was cancelled, but at least we’ll always have this one of a kind gem to treasure!
I love the original Tron movie. Full of character, charm and pure movie magic. The original Tron movie was revolutionary back in its day and the imagery is iconic today. There's nothing revolutionary about Tron Legacy. Tron legacy was boring. Had a little bit of action at the start, and a little bit of action at the end. 70 percent of this movie was characters talking about nothing. And the way Tron sank to the bottom of a sea at the end was just a dull ending for Tron. Too much of this film was talking scenes. The effects were wasted in this film because there was nothing happening. The original was a great story. This movie basically went over whats already been said. Just added a few different story points.
When I first watched Tron Legacy, I was a bit hesitant and I didn't really get into it. Then, with an open mindset, which I went into with on subsequent viewings, I began to realize just how awesome this movie really is. I went in the first time trying to compare it to the original Tron, which is a big mistake. Tron Legacy is its own movie, but with roots in the original. The visuals are stunning, the acting far better than Tron, and the music by Daft Punk was spot on. The story, well, that was where Legacy is similar but different to Tron. Now when I watch it, I get goose bumps with some of the powerful scenes, such as the ending with CLU and Flynn, or the fun factor of the updated light cycles. Over-all, Tron Legacy is a fantastic film, horrendously underrated, and is indeed one of the best sequels ever done! Oh, and seeing the gorgeous Olivia Wilde as Quorra, with her strong emotional performance, was just the icing on an already tasty cake! Tron Legacy deserves far more praise than it ever got!
"I've got a little challenge for you, Sark - a new recruit. He's a tough case, but I want him treated in the usual manner. Train him for the games, let him hope for a while, then blow him away." (yes from the original, I know... but love that scene)
This is the plot we should have had in GoftheG2. I still wish any good movie had longer cuts on Blu-ray. In another decade they'll come back, b/c with 5& 6G it will be believable to begin crossing realities.
For a very long time, I preferred the original, but I can not watch it anymore because I know, it would disappoint me. Remembering it through the nostalgia filter, it had the same visual aesthetics that Tron Legacy has, even though I know it was completely different, with lower "resolution", more simulating a merge of 3D and 8/16 bit graphics than the high end 128bit graphics with 3D accelerator and pixel shading that Legacy is simulating. The differences in style are perfectly fitting representation on how the virtuality of computer games have changed and pose no continuum break nor gives the impression of just being a remake produced at a later date.
My only complaint about the film is the final sene of the movie on the motorcycle on an overcast day. It should have ended on top of the Emcom Tower with Cora watching the sun rise. That would have been perfect.
2:52 It's actually a new Grid. Kevin Flynn states this in the first scene of the film when talking to Sam ("We built a new Grid."). It's like going from MS-DOS (1981) to Window 7 (2009). It's a huge upgrade to show the evolution of technology since the 1980's. This also explains why Yori is not present in the Grid 2.0. The only reason Tron is there is because Flynn transferred him over. "Tron was created by Alan to protect the old system. I brought him here to protect this one."
This is one of my fave films of all time. Easy top 10. Amazing visuals, great action, great characters, amazing soundtrack. The fact that Disney refused to give it a sequel is criminal. Completely outrageous. There was even a sequel green lit at one point, but Disney pulled the plug. I guess it's Star Wars or Marvel now. Nothing else is allowed.
I feel like there's a whole other philosophical layer beneath the shiny grid depicted, creating something that's your idea of perfection only to have it turn on you because you don't measure up in it's eyes. At it's heart its a film about control vs. "Just letting it happen Man"
I completely agree. When it first came out the ONLY thing that drove me to watch it was the online enthusiasm of the fan boys, especially that small clip from comic con. But, when I finally saw it, on the small screen, with that incredible sound track in place... holy hell.
Nice job Dave! I’d argue the film needs to metaphorically make sense in order to maintain relevance over time and since the original made very little sense except for its ‘age of computers’ excitement, the connective thread seems to be Jeff Bridges himself. This makes the uncanny valley issue a hard one to get over and puts a ton of pressure on the casting of his son. While I think Olivia Wild holds up as a curio in and of herself, I find there was no way Garret Hedlund was going to carry the film, especially over an idealized execution of another computational metaphor miscarriage (the convoluted means of the emergence of AI). My bet is that over time Tron: Legacy will fall into a cinematic group that suffers from the same trope as a newly remodeled Home Depot house from the same era - temporarily pretty but ultimately empty/disposable, making it painfully clear that this intellectual property is in no way linked to quality but a nostalgic love for 80’s cinema magic. I apologize for the dissenting view! Love your channel! Keep up the great work!!
Part of me thinks that a 3rd film is inevitable....and part of me thinks it would be really cool if there was almost even spacing between the first two films and these next two. 28 years between the first and 2nd....I think it would make sense to have another long gap between the 2nd and 3rd. Granted, not 28 years....that would be crazy. But I like the idea of the next film being a solid 10-15 years later...allowing for a large passage of time between films, and for a significant amount of advancements in CGI.
I don't mind the "uncanny valley" of the character CLU because he is a computer program. I found it to be a good movie, and, I think, better than the first one. The special effects for the time were amazing, but it doesn't really hold up. I think the thing I like most about this movie is it's story, and the soundtrack.
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It's easy to hate on a classic like TRON but to make a movie with so much Rotoscoping effects was unheard of as it was incredibly tedious and time consuming to do. The soundtrack by Wendy Carlos is every bit as good as the venerable one he did for Clockwork Orange. If science fiction movies were taken seriously back in the 1980's which they weren't Wendy would've won best soundtrack.
This movie made several big mistakes which didn't catch on with audiences.. The lead is unknown and not very good. Tron barely had a role until the every end. If the movie is called Tron, he should of have larger role. This should of been like escape from NY with Flynn escaping also. No one cares about the son. Daft Punk was best part of film and music.
The business will keep booming. “The market is the market is the market”, if people want mindless popcorn flicks that possess no real substance, they’ll keep producing it. The Transformers franchise is the perfect example of this. Ooo, and also pushing forward their NWO agendas in movies and wiggling their way into peoples’ subconscious for the long term, that’s a plus for them too.
Movie should have been called Flynn returns. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie but I wanted TRON. It certainly could have been easily fixed. Being in virtual reality, the original Flynn could have uploaded a younger version of himself or a previous version of Tron to reboot.
Still waiting for a sequel. The fact Disney is waiting on this is bad news. Those actors aren't getting any younger. From what iv read the third one would be the final one in the trilogy. And so far Disney is just keeping it on ice. Especially now with the acquisition of Marvel and Fox they have their hands full with very successful franchises they don't really care so far about making a third one which sucks.
TRON was all about the technical achievement of making a movie so effects laden that it spent an almost hand-animated amount of time in post. Now-a-days that is literally so common I it makes older movies on closed and built set feel claustrophobic by comparison.
TRON 2 was not about the technical. Instead, it was about building on the world created in TRON, making it believable, and making it a place we want to visit again. And it nailed it. I especially love it's subtle nods to transhumanism. (Kevin) Flynn has clearly bought into the notion that humans are hackable in the grid and believes that because of that we *should* go there to do this. And yet this is kept subtle so everyone can have their popcorn flick. If you know transhumanism, or even buy into it (I'm more the former than the latter), then TRON 2's undertones are noticeable, but if you're not it's still an enjoyable film. And that's no small achievement. Underrated indeed.
The Recognizers did ONE THING: Stomp. THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.
The LightCycles did ONE THING: Superfast turns at right angles. THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.
ONE THING. One ICONIC THING. That's all they needed to do.
oh yes that movie was awesome. but it has a huge extra kicker if you knew tron from your childhood.
same happened for me with dune (game and then the original movie) i didn't realy like the redone version in 2 or 3 movies
back to tron .. watch it in a 100% dark room on a as huge as possible screen .. cinema would be perfect .. because .. the sounds are increddible (some of daft punks best works), realy something you schould watch if you like the slightly nostalgic idea of futurism of the older days
This movie blew me away back when it first came out. I'm sure it'll gain a cult following in the near future. Just need a popular internet critic to post a review and bring awareness. Like Nostalgia Critic did with The Room