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Loved SG-1 but adored Atlantis. Quite liked the Genii episodes. Found them interesting in being a civilization whose tech and ideas were like the authoritarian states of the 1940s (albeit with better computers with dreadful monitors), but had to interact in the shadows through the galaxy.
Would have been nice to see them develop a bit more, especially after the coup.
Might read the novel continuations someday.
I'll agree the Genai story archs, it just didn't seem to logically follow, they should have been allies, or maybe have a rough patch and end up as allies. IDK how to better explain it other than the animosity felt forced.
I was prepared to be outraged when you said you considered Atlantis to be superior to SG-1, since I consider Atlantis to be SG-1's slightly retarded cousin, but it makes more sense when 90% of your praise is focused on Rodney. Rodney was a really strong character, almost too strong. Atlantis was very much The Rodney McKay Show. The one episode I always think about is the one where the puddle jumper gets wedged in the Stargate and they have to find a solution for the situation before the gate disconnects and bisects the ship. It's brilliant.
God damn, was Richard Woolsey a great character! He proved himself interesting several times during SG-1, but Robert Picardo knocked it out of the park in Atlantis! For, the best expedition leader! Samantha was great, Woolsey was better!
Been re-watching the good series' (SG-1 and Atlantis), and I heavily dislike Dr. Weir. She gets really uppity whenever someone goes over her head or doesn't consult her. She really doesn't like not being in charge of someone.
OH dude. You're about to get me emotional. WHY CAN'T THEY MAKE SHOWS LIKE THIS AGAIN??? Instead of feeding us this SJW dumb down SCI FI movies. I miss Stargate SGI and SGA. I can watch the whole entire series of Star Gate SG1 and Atlantis a 100 times and still not get tired of watching it.
I liked both Sg-1 and Atlantis but, I wished that character development was spread out more evenly between the actors with both series but, the writers seemed to have a problem writing for more than two actors for each series. When Atlantis came along Mckay had both the jobs of Jackson/Carter so characters like Teyla had zero development since the first few episodes. I kinda hoped they would kill her off towards the childbirth/Michael because her use seemed so lame by that time. I think in the end we find out she stays primitive and trades tava beans here and there.
I also wished more info and stories should have revolved around discoveries within the city and by the time Janus's lab experiment and the Atterro device episode Mckay seemed annoyed by Jackson's idea that anything else about Atlantis was interesting. In the end Atlantis was little more than a giant warship with a Stargate that could dial earth. Going in I am not sure I would have paid as much attention to the series if I knew the city was going to end up being so pedestrian.
In this world of Sanctimony Trek worship it's nice to see two of my fave SciFi series lauded. I always saw all SG1 iterations as really good and none of the changes ever threw me, and I see Atlantis as just another iteration...I truly enjoyed both series. It's sad that SG Universe was such a misfire.
Got to say you made a mistake with your analysis of Shepard. Its a pretty big point in the pilot that Shepard has a problem with the chain of command. The biggest difference is that Shepard is a much darker character, much like movie O'Niell, because he has mistakes that haunt him, where O'Niell has already dealt with the death of his son by the time the show starts and is a much more fun character.
Post your Stargate Universe review. I'm curious what you thought. I loved SG1 and SGA but hated Universe. I didn't like the crew, I didn't like the ship. It was a cool concept but the stories were boring. The only show I really liked was when they stumbled onto another civilzation and I believe they hinted that someone or something had made a planet but we never got to find out who or what they were hinting at. I also thought communication stones cheapened them being out on their own. Eli was the only one I liked. The rest of the cast was just flawed, glommy and depressing, much like the shows set. Ever BSG had interesting things happening. I honestly didn't care if any of them got wiped out. They just weren't that likable(except Eli) at least to me. The black guy on the show, I don't know what it was about him but he was kind of annoying. I'm not signling him out, I honestly just didn't like any of them. He just sort of rubbed me the wrong way, not sure why. So did their top commander guy in charge as well as the senator's daughter. I liked Sun Francks on SGA more, but replacing him with Jason Momoa was the best thing they did for the show. Maybe this show needed an alien to help fill out the cast as the last two shows had. And no, not the Senators daughter and whatever it was they were trying to turn her into.
The problem with both SG-1 and Atlantis is there was no real sense of danger. The baddies were always cannon fodder. One wondered how the baddies ever managed to take over their respective galaxies. For Atlantis, the difference between the Wraith in the opening episode and subsequent episodes was dramatic. In the opening episode, the Wraith warriors could cloud the mind of the humans, but they seemed to lose this ability in subsequent episodes.
Loved these shows (SG1 and Atlantis) and you went through them really well, any chance of an analysis of Stargate Universe? (it is a clear loser to me but would love to hear your take)
Also, I would love a Rodney McKay episode, he is my favorite of Atlantis.
I am so glad all three Stargate series were made before the insanity of the radical left hijacked our country and culture. Unfortunately, EVERYTHING that comes out of Hollywood now is contaminated by the in-your-face racism, bigotry, sexism, and intolerance of the far left. You can't watch anything today that isn't saturated with race bating, conservative attacking, gender reassigning, female dominating, gay advocating, anti-white straight male discriminating agenda, and the intolerance and bashing of anyone with dissenting opinions. And I say this a gay man who disavows the arrogance and insanity of the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ community.
I was incredibly disapointed by the ending of Atlantis. The last episode felt like it droped from someones nose and was stretched to fill 45 minutes.
Lost City was amazing, I wanted something similar.
BTW: Ending of Battlestar Galactica, that was trully epic. Full of memorable quotes, personal goodbyes, excellent fight scenes, just perfect. Atlantis was really disappointing in that regard.
Not sure which I like more, this or SG1, but it might be SG1. Atlantis is still a great show, I love the way the two shows cross over and you see characters in both. Of course, Rodney is the best, especially when he's such a wimp when hes in trouble, but then so full of himself afterwards. One of my favourite episodes is 38 minutes, also the one where Rodney is hallucinating and he sees Major Carter, brilliant. I love the space battles and the Daedalus ship, commanded by Caldwell (Mitch Pileggi) It's great every time he shows up.
Also they overpowered characters more and more from episode to episode. Mamoa killing 1000wraith by himself or a goauld with mot even blinking. Mackey could juswt land on a ship and take control in seconds. And then they even dumbed carter down for him. It was developed that she was smarter over 10seasons sg1
You forgot when McKay met his double from an alternative universe. He was quite jealous of someone being more intelligent than him and seemingly be more likeable than him. Though later when he left he realised his co-workers petered the original McKay. It was a great way to show his insecurity about what people thought about him.
There is one and only one reason to watch Stargate Atlantis. And that reason is Dr. McKay. Just like Urkel is the only reason to watch Family Matters. In general, Family Matters is the 2nd most racist TV show of all time, after Amos and Andy. Any time a white person was ever on that show, it was only to show how racist, evil, lazy and irresponsible they supposedly are. There's nothing good about Family Matters.... except Urkel! And there's nothing good about Stargate Atlantis.... except Dr. McKay! The Wraith, the enemies in Stargate Atlantis, are a complete ripoff of the Atavus, the enemies of the last season of Earth Final Conflict. The continuation of their stupid invention of "ascension" from stargate sg1 goes full retard, and boy does it not belong on a science fiction show since it's pure garbage new age metaphysics bullshit. But Dr. McKay, he's the life of the show. He's the only reason to watch. Sure, he's not the only prototypical genius mad scientist, there's Rick in Rick and Morty, there's Dr. Farnsworth from Futurama, so he's not COMPLETELY something you haven't seen before, but the thing that's great about Dr. McKay is how familiar his daily concerns are in addition to that. He's like.... if Homer Simpson was a hypergenius.... and alternated petty simpleminded, self-centered, petty motivations like racing to take the last slice of pie when you've already had 2 slices and everyone else has only had one, with building a better hyperdrive or saving the universe from being collapsed by a piece of alien technology, and his flaws often came back to him with consequences. And I can tell that the actor himself is not a complete moron like Amanda Tapping, and that really shows through in the character he portrays.
I completely agree with your takes on these wonderful series :D be interested to hear your thoughts on the abomination that is origins xD
Here is how we bring back Stargate Awesomeness "StarGate Ronon's" we form a black ops team of Tealc, Ronon, Todd the Wraith and Vala who go around doing "off the book" missions
Now imagine this. Damn, it's 10 years ago. Life-long SG1 fan, Atlantis is like in it's third season or something. TVs here in Czech Republic almost given up on the franchise, so we had to VPN and torrent our ways to the show. (Remember, way before Netflix and stuff...) Yet, there was this annual nerd convention every year and that year I went because David Nykl (Zelenka, Czech character) was a guest there. Damn I still have his signature somewhere. <3 ... during his talk, he dropped the bomb that Carter would be leading Atlantis. Maaaaan. I don't think I've ever written so many text messages to so many nerdy friends so quickly. :D :D :D ... aahhh. Good times.
I love to finally hear someone who also prefers Atlantis to Sg-1, I agree with you on all points but one, I actually really liked Fords' storyline, even if it wasn't all to well fitted into the first two seasons. I was wondering if you had the time to read the Legacy Books? I find at least the first six books to be a nice continuation of the show, most of all Rodneys' and Todds' storylines,. While Rodney was developed very well in the show, I thought the Wraith were a wee bit too 2- dimensional.
If you haven't read the books, I implore you to read at least the first one, it's worth it.
Anyways, one last question, will you be watching the new Stargate Origins show? I think the first three episodes look a bit fishy, since they are only 10 minutes long. I don't feel the invoke the Stargate feel very well. I would be curious what you think of the new show!
(Also, thanks for making me cry by showing the clip from Tao of Rodney, one of the saddest episodes in the series)
Loved SG-1, SG-A was great, I'm looking forward to your upcoming SG-U analysis as I really loved that show and felt it was so killed off for all the wrong reasons. But please, don't do one for SG-I!! That cartoon doesn't really deserve the time of day, let alone the SG branding!!
I felt this show had more freedom, than StarGate had. I felt that Stargate had this cage it cannot step out of. Later in some of the Orai episodes it opened up a bit. Maybe other characters being just "escorts"/fillers?