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I'd have to rank these from best to worst First Contact, Generations, Nemesis and Insurrection. First Contact had some really great moments, going back to the first warp test flight, again, some of the best acting from Stewart when he's talking to Lily about the Borg and just generally a good time. Generations, acting by Stewart and McDowell, the plot in general and the meeting of Kirk and Picard. Nemesis, not bad but not weak, the death of Data still very sad to me but understandable why they killed him off. And Insurrection, that might as well have been the lost opener for Season 8 of TNG. Just awful. The review Doug Walker and Linkara did on it pretty much sums up what's wrong with it.
I don't think there's any debate here. First Contact is clearly the best and it measures up to any of the better Star Trek films, even Wrath of Khan. I'm really not sure which is worse, Insurrection or Nemesis. I really hated Insurrection; it was like a long bad episode, but Nemesis was equally stupid, and killing off Data only to see his clone? who we knew we would never see again, take Data's place at the end was just pointless. I suppose that leaves Generations as 2nd best, even though it's just OK. It has its good moments.
I would argue the order is First Contact->Insurrection->Generations->Nemesis. Insurrection is not nearly as bad as you're saying - it's not good, but it's better than you say. It's certainly closest in tone to the show. But it's important to say that none of these movies were a patch on the best of the TV show. Mr. Plinkett has done a fantastic job of explaining why.
I like nemesis because it uses some elements from 2 of the best star trek movies: star trek 2 and 6:
--> a chance at making peace with a longtime enemy (romulans/klingons)
--> faceoff between 2 good commanders + dead of one of the most beloved characters (granted data's death wasn't well executed)
it also resolves plotlines from the tng show:
--> riker finally becoming captain and marrying troi
--> data actually understanding humans
--> picard facing himself and realising how things could be different
I don't believe nemesis should be on a galactic scale, star trek never was on a galactic scale (except deep space 9)
it always was about just a couple of ships fighting for bigger consequences which we don't see because we are focussed on the cause of a galactic conflict
for example: balance of terror
Riker: What do we know about that old Klingon ship? Any weaknesses?
Worf: It is little more than a garbage scow, sir!
Riker: Right! Fire all phasers!
*shitty bird of prey is blown up
Riker: Okay, let's get a shuttle down there and stop Soran!
Insurrection is the only Star Trek film (well, and the third movie in the reboots) that I never saw. I simply could not bring myself to watch it, or care it even existed.
Generations held my interest, but in retrospect, it wasn't good. They could have done so much more. Kirk's death was useless.
First Contact was actually a decent film, but one thing I always hated about it was how brutally Picard killed the borg that had been his own assimilated crew. When the woman called him out on it, he basically waved off the borg as monsters. It is as if he totally forgot that, with effort, people can be brought back from assimilation, like he was. Members of the same crew that risked everything to save him when he suffered that fate, were just killed. I remember the crewman in the hallway being assimilated, asking for help, and Picard just shot him. They sure as hell didn't just kill off Picard when he was assimilated. Not to spare him the pain, and not to spare the Federation from the wrath of what the borg could do with his knowledge.
While his hate, anger, and fear of the borg are understandable, I find his actions out of character, and rather unforgivable. Not the fact that he had to kill (at least some) of them, but the brutality he did it with.
I think I'm one of the few who loved this movie. It was visually interesting to me, beginning to end. Moments of humor and sorrow both resonated. I love the romulans, but they are underused and often more two dimensional than klingons, so having them be the focus was exciting. Seeing the Remans, finally, was exciting. The idea of a failed Tal Shiar project to clone and replace a Star Fleet captain was fitting, and very Romulan. Finally seeing the Enterprise-E in action was satisfying, and seeing the Romulan ship it was up against was terrifying.
Data's death seemed senseless, but that is part of why the new android showed up. With no personality of it's own worth note, and Data having earlier copied himself into the android, the idea was that Spiner was getting too old for the role, even with attempts to suggest Data could visibly "age," and so he felt that, as prosthetics could only do so much, it might be best to remove Data, for the sake of believability... while the second android he was copied into gave the potential for a Deus Ex Machina to revive him in the future.
I have watched it over and over again, several times just looking for a reason it should be so hated, and have come up empty. I genuinely do not understand why the film was so poorly received. I'm not saying there weren't flaws. There most certainly were.... but I feel the hate for the film is not fair. And because the characters feel true to themselves, and the serious tone of the film, and the much more interesting Romulans are center stage?
Nemesis was my favorite film, of the four. And I truly think that, had Insurrection never existed, and Frakes had directed Nemesis, it would not have been the last TNG film.
Nemesis is a way better movie than people give it credit for the whole concept of nature versus nurture shut up. the fight between Good and Evil, both sides of the same coin. the heroic sacrifice of data... yeah it had some problems but All Star Trek movies have problems
I would have picked the same order. Nemesis I felt like had the capability to be something really great, but seemed like everyone involved in making the movie were a bit burnt out. I was a bit pissed myself about the meeting between Picard and Kirk. I also believed that Kirk's death should have been in a glorious battle on the Enterprise. Insurrection just felt like a bad in between episode until they could continue the plot further.
The more I have watched Insurrection, I have to say the more I have enjoyed it. Generations was to me by far the worse in the TNG film series. So bad, Leonard Nimoy refused to be in it. No Kirk on his Enterprise and Picard on his fighting to save the universe. Not a satisfying film at all. I do own the opening score which was very well done.
I agree why leave an “alien” corpse on a primitive world to possibly discover it later and breaking the prime directive. Maybe when rescue ships came they beamed Kirk’s body out and took him to earth and give him a proper state burial.
Another good point of First Contact is no families onboard! Works for tv show but not movies.
Insurrection would harvesting rings kill the population or return them to normal aging? Why couldn’t Federation citizens just move there to rejuvenate? I mean 600 people take up a small town not whole world. Did they move here prior to Federation annexation or after? That matters to determine who has legal claim.
Nemesis would have been more like Wrath of Khan if the villain was previously known from the series. No mention of Lore in reference to B4 model. No mention of Spock’s reunification movement on Romulus. Is the Remans telepathic ability proof Romulans retain telepathy from their Vulcan ancestors with them being their offshoot race? Data’s death was like Trips death unnecessary.
The major plot hole of Generations was just beam yourself in a apace suit in front of the ribbon would have accomplished same result of altering the course of the ribbon by killing off stars and millions of people.
While I personally liked Insurrection, and disagree with you on some of the points (except about production quality - it really was basically a TV movie), what they did with that movie is that they bought into the Star Trek movie curse. Every odd numbered Star Trek movie (when numbers are applied) up to that point had done poorly at the box office, while the even numbered one were all hits. With Insurrection (aka Star Trek 9), they basically accepted that, and rushed it out so fast in order to get started on Star Trek 10 (Nemesis), that I didn't even know about it until it was already in theatres. And even back then, in early internet days, you usually still knew at least months in advance when a new big name movie was coming out.
That curse obviously ended with Nemesis, though I also personally mostly enjoyed that movie too.
This critic wouldn't know good special effect if it bit him in the face. Star Trek insurrection add fantastic special effects. The palm pit lives very realistic-looking, the spaceships were solid-looking the look like models the thing is he did not like the nebula to him it looked fake. The truth is it was based off of artist renderings of nebulas so it was very realistic. The only thing I agree with this critic is the stupid joystick scene. Manual controls could have looked a lot better. Know if you want to see bad special effects watch Hercules Legendary Journeys. Great stories great show that special effects were terrible.
Chekov and Scotty on the Enterprise B was (for me) obviously written for Bones and Spock. Chekov even points at cameramen and women and makes them nurses (a la McCoy). Scotty tells jokes in a deadpan fashion like Spock. Etc.
Kirk's death was ridiculous. He was brought back to participate in a fist fight in which he DIED. He should have been brought back because of something that only he knew (to solve a problem only HE could have solved). He could have been the one to run the battle against the Klingons because he had dealt with that class of ship before (for example). ANYTHING but the crap we saw on screen.
i agree with the order and assessment . I like nemesis a little bit more but first contact is so far ahead of the rest , it often feels like the only TNG film and the others were TV movies. if these films were made now i suspect the dominion war would have paved the way for a STCU with tie ins to DS9 and possibly even voyager
A couple of simple things could have saved Nemesis. First, Patrick Stewart should have played both characters. It would have been far more interesting to see him play both the good guy and bad guy. Have evil Picard be the one who discovers B4 on the alien planet. As the viewer, you wouldn't know that it wasn't Picard or Data. Later, the reveal would have been interesting. Then, take away the whole "I need your blood" thing. That seemed a bit contrived. What's wrong with having evil Picard, just be evil, and want to kill the original? Second, Riker and Troy should have left for the Titan, before the Enterprise went to Romulus. Have evil Picard and B4 take over the Enterprise (without anyone knowing), with the plan to go back to earth and destroy it, leaving real Picard and Data on Romulus. There, he gets help from the Romulans to go after evil Picard. Riker then comes and joins up, with the Titan.
Dave, these arguments against Insurrection really need to stop. Everybody from Linkara to Roger Ebert fail to grasp that, first, the Prime Directive (or any regulatory policy) can’t simply be overridden simply because an appeal to emotion or some “greater good”. Secondly, because the process of harvesting the particles involves a race who are ultimately revealed as one and the same as the inhabitants, it becomes an internal affair of the planet and Starfleet/The Federation being duped into a foreign nation’s politics which goes against their core beliefs just like how they can’t pick and choose who lives or dies because they may or may not be the next Einstein or Hitler.
From a story narrative point of view, the Federation is dependent on the Son’a to handle the execution of the plan and only get a cut by virtue of the property (sorta like splitting oil revenue simply because it’s your land but their labor) yet A) The B’aku were there for around 300 years yet the Federation is only 200 years old meaning we unwittingly annexed someone else’s colony; B) the Son’a were slavers who used illegal weapons and so were very much likely to just flake once they got what they wanted leaving Starfleet with their dick in their hands and 600 pissed off aliens wondering where all those lives that were going to be saved will get help from now; C) since Deep Space 9 confirmed that the Son’a were indeed working with the Dominion, it would be very much in Starfleet’s best interests to stop them getting the particles since it’s 600 vs the worst enemy the Alpha Quadrant has seen since the Borg; and D) the Animated episode _The Lorelei Signal_ and the TNG episode _Unnatural Selection_ both depict a character(s) being super-aged but ultimately saved by being restored to their last known good state by the transporter. Word of God says the only reason that method isn’t used for other problems is because it would rob the passenger of memories made between the last pattern log and the reset. Given the traumas of war and injury, can’t say that’d be too steep a price. There’s also the alternate filmed ending where Ru’afo ejects out before the collector goes boom but passes through the rings de-aging into oblivion. If that’s the case then a shuttle could just fly by at the right angle and duration (auto-pilot?) and subject the patient to all the restoration they need. Or they could set up a hospital on the far side after asking the B’aku where patients could stay long enough to feel as revitalized as the Enterprise crew started feeling after being there a short while; no need to uproot anyone.
Finally, there lays the inherent problem with allowing anyone but the those stuck solely on the planet to have the particles: where is any actual storytelling to be done if the Federation and any of its allies had magic Fountain of Youth particles that can cause instant healing? It’s just like the Into Darkness nonsense with Augment Jesus Blood since now the characters are borderline immortal and free of horrible danger. The Son’a needed either the collected particles or slow, sustained exposure on the planet to fix themselves (alternate ending notwithstanding) but they didn’t want to live there anyway due to personal reasons and some couldn’t last long. But that problem only affects them; anyone else would be fine. So there needs to be a limitation which is the particles stay on the planet hardly anyone knows about. And given the massive drama of the Dominion War, what kinda problems, like Nog’s leg, would remain if he could just get a metaphasic particle treatment? Fountain of Youth stories, assuming there was a fountain, require it to be stationary with very little being able to be moved because otherwise it changes the ballgame of the narrative universe that a character has found such divine magic. Even _The Last Crusade_ was smart enough to trap the Holy Grail behind the Great Seal and behind traps/tests, and hidden far away.
Ultimately, the film is just fine except it needed to be longer just to let the other characters explore their affectations from being exposed to some of the particles like Riker and Troi’s relationship rekindling.
@Jakk Frost All the more reason why the complaint of Picard and co. “going native” and how that was wrong (regardless of playing God or “the greater good”) is in itself wrong and that The Federation should never had gotten involved and the Son’a should have fucked off. If the film is weak, it’s because it didn’t cover its bases and potential well. A scene easily could have been added where Picard facing off agains Ru’afo could have said, “You were never planning to help all those millions, you just planned to keep it all for yourselves!” and then Ru’afo shrugs a “pretty much”. That would have also sealed the deal on the “greater good”.
One way to address the issue of moving the Baku and whether it was right or wrong is; they could have said that sufficient exposure to the particles was what caused the Son'a to deteriorate the way they were, and moving the Baku would ultimately be condemning them to death. Picard and crew only had brief exposure, therefore they wouldn't be trapped on that planet the way the Baku were. And in fact the healing they experienced while there even reverted, if I recall correctly (I believe Geordie had cybernetic eyes again in Nemesis).
This means the whole plan was futile anyways. One apparently needs constant treatments with the particles to retain their benefits, otherwise they don't last, they revert, which most likely actually _would_ kill the Baku.
I agree with the ranking, though Insurrection and Nemesis are so bad, it's hard to really say which one is worse. I think the way they killed Data while having a cop-out backup with B4 is why I might say Nemesis is slightly worse. But that's like saying having a toothache on the top of your jaw is worse than one on the bottom, they're both bad. If it would have just ended with First Contact, I could have been happy sending off TNG's crew that way.
I think nemisis is highly misconstrued. I actually may bumb generations down.
Lest we forget, it was supposed to lead into a final TNG flick, as the tag line is "final mission begins"... we never got an end. We were thrust into Kelvin timeline w/ mutant monster Romulans.. never explaned. Eric Bana romulans look similar to those ugly work-in-the-mines aliens (cant remember the name rn) and i think even a dominion war connect would explain it all. But dudes in suits with $ dont care about stoytelling, or continuity.. *AhemJustice league COugh STDiscovery*
Sux money hungry lamos get to dictate how stories should go.
BTW i will never ever own a copy of insurrection.. that is worse than ST:The Motion Picture.
Honestly, First Contact is great, but overrated (best of both worlds is better)
The real reason Nemesis failed was because Paramount released the film on Dec 9, 2002 and Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers came out Dec 18, 2002. Even at the time years ago when I was much less savvy about the movie business I remember thinking that releasing the movie a week before the Lord of the Rings was just stupid.
AT around 10:45, you are arguing that the Baku are selfish and that Starfleet is in it's rights for wanting to use the planet for medical treatment. I am sure that is what the Admiral proposed but the Sona wanted to take the energy that allowed for such medical wonders for themselves. In this case, whatever Starfleet had decided would have become null and void as the Sona were not going to let anyone else us the healing energy either. Personally I would have just started a Starfleet colony on the opposite side of the planet. Who would know?
The Baku were there before the Federation, so it IS their planet, and if an alien race tried to kidnap you and destroy your planet and cut your life span by a whole lot, wouldn't you consider them to be the bad guys.
I think you missed the point. It wasn't the planet itself the Federation wanted, it was the metraphasic (I think that what it was, it's been a while since I've seen it, and I was never that good at memorizing the technobabble) radiation in the rings they kept the people from aging. The Federation want to extract that from the rings, but that not only would've destroyed the rings, but the planet itself. That's why they had to relocate the Baku or else they would parish along with everything else on the planet.
Well, they did migrate to the planet centuries before the rise of the Federation. The problem with Insurrection is how poorly set it's story was. There are just 600 Baku people living a simple ala Amish way of life on a tiny part of the planet (imagine Earth with only 600 people). I don't see why the Federation would set camp NEXT DOOR to their village, along with the Sona (related to the Baku) covertly planning to remove them. It's a vast planet, so many other spots to set base + settlement and just observe the Baku much much further away or even from orbit with all that advanced technology. It may not be morally right on the part of the Federation + Sona, but again, as long as they left the Baku alone and set base + settlement much further away to observe them (plus from orbit), it would make their carefully hidden presence justifiable enough. Then again, one moral the movie does show is how greed can cloud sound judgment and decision making. The Federation (minus the Enterprise) and Sona were greedy for the planet's FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH effect, that they had to go through serious lengths just to rid of ONLY 600 Baku.
I can't understand why major characters can survive the series but not the movies. Spock (albeit temporarily), Kirk, and Data. Seems to be nothing more than gratuitous attempts to strike an emotional chord which worked in my case, as it made me hate Nemesis and Generations. Kirk's death, like Darth Vader's origin, Maris Crane, and Mrs. Wollowitz should never be seen (nor any Star Wars movie after the first three). Mystery is drama.
One nit picky note: the Zephram Cochrane in the original Star Trek was an upright moral guy and not the asshole portrayed in the movie (though I am constrained to point out that the asshole was more interesting). Also he was, if I remember correctly, from Alpha Centauri, not earth. And in the original series you don't get the impression that earth was Vulkan's little brother in the Federation as you do in First Contact, though Enterprise took that to a hideous extreme.
Likability of a movie depends on your age (plot holes are less noticed when you are younger) and your expectations. Expectations were unrealistically high before Generations and Insurrection were released, explaining why fans were disappointed. First Contact is my favourite as well but it has so many plot holes. The most obvious being that the Borg Sphere could have travelled back in time before the battle with the fleet near Earth at the start of the movie. The Borg Queen had obviously planned to travel back in time by having the Sphere on-board the Cube. So, why wait for Picard blow up the Cube and nearly stop her before travelling back in time? Plus, having a Borg Queen kind of undermined the basic premise of the Borg... However, any movie - critically acclaimed, revenue blockbuster or cult hit - can be easily ripped apart. The real question you should be asking is: Do younger kids (the target audience for most movies) like it or not? Movies are designed to appeal to kids on an emotional level, and are not supposed to be logical.
The problem with this "Before (B4)" Android did not existed .Before Data was lore and he was dismantle.
It seem they wanted to make a new startrek movie but did not know what to say, so they just almost improvise.
After that they created the new Star Trek movies with a new Kirk and just bad to more bad.
Insurrection's story was just plain stupid. A ENTIRE planet with only 600 inhabitants living Amish-like lifestyle, and the Federation + the Son'a couldn't just pick another location on the planet to set base + settlements with cloaking devices. The Ba'ku weren't going to detect them with their primitive lifestyle from thousands of miles away considering it's a huge and mostly uninhabited planet. They could've observed the Ba'ku from a great distance also with all that advanced technology, instead of foolishly setting camp right next door. Another stupid plot point was the stealth plan of removing the Ba'ku into a hologram ship, because again, there's just 600 of them in an ENTIRE planet. They don't have the capability of traveling thousands of miles and tell off worlders "Excuse me, but this planet belongs to us." It's even mind boggling that the movie has a fairly strong cult following (*6.4 IMDB rating*). Might be because of Capt. Picard's charming romance with the Ba'ku lady, who has the charming qualities of a MILF, or among other nit picky stuffs. Anyway, I've always found Insurrection as a lame Star Trek / Sci Fi movie ever since it hit cable TV back in 1999.
Quick trivia for the Trek nerds:
During Data's little funeral scene at the end of Nemesis, Riker is trying to remember what tune Data was whistling when they first met on the holodeck. He fails to remember it. Without going back to watch the pilot episode, who can name the tune?
the prime directive is not interfering in pre warp civilizations. they thought they were pre warp, and they had control of the planet prior to the federation's existence. so the duck blind is just fine for insurrection. once they discover this the mission should have changed to one of diplomacy. the uncovering of the plot to violate the prime directive could have made for a decent book, but it wouldn't be a good visual story as it should take place primarily on a federation complex of some sort. it also means that when the outcasts return to deal with the ba'ku this would be an internal conflict and thus starfleet is required to sit back and do nothing. so the story just doesn't work if you know the federation.
What bothered me about First Contact is .... two things:
1- Earth is the focus. It's Star Trek there's no reason they should be anywhere near Earth. We should be looking at other worlds, exploring new things. Earth was in TNG ...what? Twice? So many Star Trek movies focus on Earth. We live there, we get it. Go somewhere else and save another culture.
2- Why did the Borg go ALL The way to Earth and fight the entire Federation fleet ....THEN go back in time? Why not go back in time and ....THEN go to Earth? Infact...Why are they going after Earth so far back? They want tech, knowledge and people. They're not getting much of the first two from post WW3 Earth.
I think TNG series suffered from a tug of war between updating the look of the show and it's direction with actors and directors trying to take the show in different directions after Gene's death and certainly CBS was involved in that tug of war.
causing the shows direction to suffer, this is why TNG never really had it's own theme, other then a few borg episodes, Riker was a bad choice for first officer her we have the lurching fat middle aged first officer with a beard who we really did not even get to know other then he has father he did not speak to for a long toime he's from Alaska and he wa duplicated by a transporter and loves Deanna Troy. other then that we know less about Riker then we know about Picard, Data, who dominated the series so much never got to get to know Geordie, Troy or Riker, When ds9 came out it was set as a darker written series and already had a good footing on it's direction from day one as if the first season had been pre-written and approved, ds9 ended up being well written and knowing it's direction from start to end, Sisco being emmisary to fall back on and few other areas oin which to write including the dominion war, TNG, was lacking any direction and should have focused on the borg as it's final direction which proved positive in voyager. instead of 7 of nine being on voyager she should have been a tng character introduced to picard, this whole story would have worked far better for tng giving it a direction, and voyager encounters with the borg could h ave been reduced to one or two episodes, suggesting they encountered the borg and got through it rather then being written in a direction tng should have gone in its last 3 seasons.
Dave, you should find Tom Hardy & Patrick Stewart's read through of the script from Nemesis. Some of the dialog is slightly different in places, and the acting is a little more casual, but god *DAMN* did these men knock it out of the park, even for just a rehearsal it's solid acting.
Excellent review as usual. Not to worry about the 'deaths' of Kirk and Data - the very good ST book series does a very good job in bringing both back to life, and often better for the lesser used characters such as Dr. Crusher, Troi, Geordi and Worf than in the TV shows and especially the films (First Contact excepted). Its a shame that they never tried to use some of the book-based stories or plot arcs to develop into films. Many of those published in the time since Nemesis were excellent.
I think Berman and especially Paramount were way too cautious/safe in making the films, and, like many movies these days (the latest crop of Star Wars and Trek movies being obvious examples), pay little attention to good story-telling, scripts and acting and too much on (expensive) set-piece SFX/stunts and making visually-appealing films, never mind the increasing influence of the SJWs.
I did think that 'First Contact' deserved both more plaudits and commercial success than it got (too many critics just either generically hate all sci-fi or 'don't get' it [especially Star Trek at the time - the only reason why they loved the first reboot was because, just like with Star Wars: The Force Awakens, it was directed by their beloved JJ Abrams. Personally I though both of those movies were very average indeed, and not a patch of on the best of the films in both series that came before.
First Contact is by far the best of the 4 films but still has one glaring flaw: the retcon of the Borg.
Perhaps the defining characteristic of the Borg was that they are a collective race and think as a single entity. From time to time they have created individuals to parlay on their behalf but the collective was always in control. First Contact completely up ends this concept now asserting that the Borg is actually controlled by a single individual, the Borg Queen. So while the Borg are still a threat from a technological POV it definitely deflates their cool factor knowing that the hive mind is just a smoke screen for one petty authoritarian in the same vain as The Wizard of Oz.
Other than that major plot point the film was excellently crafted.
I liked Generations, it had emotional depth, but the Enterprise D ("...a galaxy class star-ship...") being destroyed by "a 30 year old bird of prey" ? They could've at least made it a Vor'cha attack cruiser. That would've been more credible.
The Ten Greatest Star Trek Films of All Time:
1. Forbidden Planet
2. The Hunt for Red October
3. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
4. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
5. Run Silent, Run Deep
6. Das Boot
7. Galaxy Quest
8. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
9. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
10. The Black Hole
>"Nemesis is a more serious movie in tone than Insurrection"
Allow me to debunk that statement in one plot point: Data dies, Before takes his role just like that like 5 minutes later. Nemesis is a piece of junk that barely can be called Star Trek worthy. It clumsily tries to jerk at heart strings and then continues to completely shit all over them. Nemesis is worse than Insurrection? At least the So'na plot was fucking believable.
@2:27 He doesn't drag his body up, you can tell by there being too few rocks, he just makes it symbolically for Kirk, there might have been no remains to gather as well, maybe they could only find that Starfleet pin, maybe he already mentioned it to Riker? The ship might have been 20 years old, but that doesn't mean the weapons were, and a few early shots without shields puts the bird of prey at an advantage, besides they do destroy it? Just not in time. Obviously First Contact is gold so agree with all comments there. Insurrection, it's a good point about the Dominion War, but I think it would've been too hard blending it with the show, if the war didn't end in the movie it'd be pointless and if it did then DS9 wouldn't have finished properly so, interesting idea but not really doable, as far as I can tell anyway. Remember, the Sona do come into DS9 supporting the Dominion, for whatever that is worth for you. Don't know what your problem is with the space battle, it was good, the joystick? C'mon. Surprising you didn't understand the slowing of time, its their perception that is sped up, not time actually slowing down, that was what was happening there. The jokes, well, Data had been doing similar things throughout TNG, you can take them or leave them, they shouldn't really effect your opinion of the movie overall. I think the plot twist was very clever the first time I watched it, gives real depth to why the Sona know about planet, why they want to become young again, pity you didn't see that / appreciate that. Why are the Baku selfish? They don't need to join the Federation, no one does, if you've watched enough Star Trek you've seen this several times where there are species who are met then wish to be left alone by Starfleet and the Federation, they don't have to join them if they don't want to, they're doing fine on their own. But whatever, about the Baku? If the planet was unoccupied when they came there, and they decided to make a colony, they should be free to do so, they shouldn't feel the need to give it up to a large organisation to exploit its resource so people can live extended life spans. Your comment about the Prime directive assumes they knew the Baku were a warp capable species, which in the film it's actually revealed to Picard and co. that they aren't, so its plausible (likely) the Federation didn't know about this either. I disagree that the Federation are the good guys, I agree with the sentiment of the film, which boils down to, you shouldn't rob the few for the service of the masses, the Baku weren't harming anyone, but the Federation was robbing these people of a planet they claimed, and underhandedly, you're telling me that beaming people off a planet onto a cloaked ship covertly, is the act of the good guys? They should've asked the Baku up front, tried to reach a compromise, maybe they would've been willing to let people settle on other parts of the planet, we don't know because the Federation didn't do that, they decided to steal it, and I don't think stealing is appropriate regardless of the ends, they don't justify those means. The Federation don't 'own' it, it might be in some of Federation space, or near it, but systems need to join the Federation willingly, they aren't the Klingon Empire they don't annex planets whenever it suits them. Everything else I think comes under, you're entitled to your opinion, derivative story uninspiring sets, whatever, it was movie quality, I can't think of many of the episodes that would come close to this level of budget or detail. I think I need to write another comment when it comes to Nemesis.
So you didn't like the buggy scene, ok then. There isn't actually anything clunky about it but continue. I think flashbacks would've been bloat in a movie that didn't need it, which is probably why it wasn't added. I do think Data's "forced death" as you call it, does resonate, and something you seemed to have missed throughout the four films is they tie in perfectly for him, he's almost the centre piece to all of those films, having him go through all of this with the fans and then to die saving the Enterprise, what could be a more fitting end? Anyway, you asked, so that's my thoughts on these films. Order compared to yours, 1. FC, 2. Insurrection, 3. Nemesis and 4. Generations.