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The Tech That Could Fix One of Wind Power's Biggest Problems

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Hello World’s Ashlee Vance paid a recent visit to Iceland’s capital city of Reykjavik to see the next part of the green energy story. He found a start-up called Icewind that is building a new type of funky wind turbine designed to perform well in low-wind conditions but also to slow itself down in high-winds, preventing it from catching on fire or ripping apart. Watch the full episode of 'Hello World: Iceland': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8ZRTJQAcjU Like this video? Subscribe to Bloomberg on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/Bloomberg?sub_confirmation=1 And subscribe to Bloomberg Politics for the latest political news: http://www.youtube.com/BloombergPolitics?sub_confirmation=1 Bloomberg is the First Word in business news, delivering breaking news & analysis, up-to-the-minute market data, features, profiles and more: http://www.bloomberg.com Connect with us on... Twitter: https://twitter.com/business Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bloombergbusiness Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloombergbusiness/ Bloomberg Television brings you coverage of the biggest business stories and exclusive interviews with newsmakers, 24 hours a day: http://www.bloomberg.com/live Connect with us on... Twitter: https://twitter.com/bloombergtv Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BloombergTelevision Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloombergtv
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rhoadnaroahs (4 days ago)
Put thousands of these in Wyoming and you could probably power the whole US.
MrBram85 (6 days ago)
What a joke
MEDIA SHOW (7 days ago)
that's stolen invenion....actually the guy who first made it in 2005 ,now is in jail you piece of crap...acting like inventors.
EvroNetwork (7 days ago)
What happens if very very strong wind hits them? do they need special controller to "stall" them? or they can run without an issue even on a hurricane?
Integza (10 days ago)
Oh, we are making a video about an energy solution? Let's not talk about efficiency, power, cost, applicability ...
Seth Maskovich (15 days ago)
why not use nuclear? it's safe
Sara Teubert (15 days ago)
Why don't they just make wind turbines have a system built in to resist high wind speeds? Like one of those old-timey centrifugal brake type things where if it starts going too fast, centrifugal force makes the arms spress out and slows it down. Don't know the proper way to describe it, but it's like the exact OPPOSITE of what happens when a ballerina spins and she pulls her arms in to spin faster. When the arms go out, spin slows down.
Jaizel Mhay Magnaye (16 days ago)
Gentlemen, if you don't mind what is the efficiency of this type of turbine?
Bacon Wizard (16 days ago)
Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.
Abraham Delatorre (17 days ago)
1:10 For a nuclear engineer he sure made one ugly weld. :)
AFRICA4AFRICANS (19 days ago)
HAITI NEEDS THIS
João Paulo Martins (21 days ago)
Brasil
Sudhansh Jais (23 days ago)
Go Green 👍
matt taylor (23 days ago)
lol those stainless welds hurt me - he needs the flux core.
donna holmes (24 days ago)
Wow I do want one of these for my land I know here in Arizona they would let me have one of those
Nicholas Littlejohn (24 days ago)
Doubtful multimillon dollar windmills simply catch on fire. They have sophisticated weather linked neutral clutches.
Doug Spindler (26 days ago)
Okay it's been two years. Have these proven to be cost effective? I'm not seeing them where I am. Another scam?
Jeevan Thapa (27 days ago)
whats the Price for 1 wind turbine?
Gurdeep Siddhu (27 days ago)
It also won't kill the birds 😍😍💗💗, or it won't also kill the birds 😍😍💗
Saumitra Chakravarty (1 month ago)
When efficiency meets artistry
Ethan Lamoureux (1 month ago)
How efficient is a wind turbine design where half the turbine area is moving into the wind, counteracting the other half which is moving away from the wind? The only reason it works at all is because the back side of each blade is curved to slightly reduce its friction as it moves into the wind.
Ides of March (1 month ago)
I'm not an engineer, but wouldn't having more fans decrease the energy needed to move the rotor out of deadlock? Or would the total energy needed stay the same? My intuition tells me that by decreasing the energy needed at any particular time, the rotor would still spin faster. For example the shape of a turbine vent seems much better for this kind of wind turbine.
tomaf (1 month ago)
What they forget to tell us is wind turbines slow down the wind, and that causes the air to warm up, thus causing global warming. ;-P
Jeff Thompson (1 month ago)
Put one on every house in america
Iggy Moyano Jr (1 month ago)
I have ONE question ? Have any of Your turbines been tested in hurricane comditions ? Like the kind on THE U.S. NOW ?
It looks like there may be less chance of killing a bird as well.
lady Miamia (1 month ago)
lol experimental
Ameya (1 month ago)
Power output should have been specified
mahchymk93 (1 month ago)
It's run by Thor.
Marcos Mota (1 month ago)
Thanks Bloomberg, another gem from your media team. Why do Icelanders speak better English than New Yorkers, Floridians, and Londoners? It's damn embarrassing...these gentlemen definitely will get my money when I venture out to build out a property. It makes total sense to convert dollars into land and energy goods.
Jana Bo (1 month ago)
plastic does exists in 2016, y mother ffffuckers. Learn how to make things like thise frome peoplele keeping y alive ,Ukrainians.
mike askme (1 month ago)
I wonder if these are home compatible?
Raydio Show (1 month ago)
No one mentioned how much smaller the footprint is with this design 👍 very cool!
Drake Koefoed (1 month ago)
I've been saying since the 70's that an old fashioned farm windmill could be rigged with springs that would feather the prop to keep the torque below the maximum it can take. Never sen it done.
Daniel Potts (1 month ago)
How many KW please
uwe in Hamburg (1 month ago)
Nonsense! Vertical axis wind turbines have been around since ancient times. Nothing new here.
Ян Кузнецов (1 month ago)
Это же ротор Онипко. Интересно, он об этом знает?
Naiemaa (1 month ago)
So what does it do exactly when high-speed winds hit??????
TIlak Sevak (1 month ago)
Yeah, Thor converting the Wind energy to ELECTRICITY))) Ha ha ha ha)
Travis Halstead (1 month ago)
Like he said nothing new. I've produced one very similar myself and yes they do prevent over spin from high winds. When it reaches a certain RPM it creates a Vortex around it that blocks the wind in a way like a giant drum wood. The faster it spins the less likely it is able to spend because it becomes less aerodynamic efficient for rotation. At a certain point it literally just fights itself and becomes a cylinder. This is simply only my experience with these types of designs. To see this company grow would be excellent
HERO (1 month ago)
What about effectiveness compared with traditional turbine?
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Daniel Ord (2 months ago)
They should attach solar to the blades, with create more energy I believe...
Joseph Groves (2 months ago)
Seathor. Wow what a name. Isn't Iceland the coolest?
Ron Garza (2 months ago)
Imagine anything not secured on a merry-go-round (tiovivo in Spanish). It will be flung outward. So while the one blade is catching the wind, it is causing air to move outward from above and below on the other 2 vanes. An area for improvement?
shingshongshamalama (2 months ago)
Okay well where are they then?
DenverDave2 (2 months ago)
Would there be a related approach for water streams?
Hare Riti (2 months ago)
Millions were put into research of these turbines and they cannot produce more energy than the control eats up. The project was eventually put down, after years of financial and cognitive input. Contact me and I will direct you to the company, university and production chief, if you are interested.
Leif Johnson (2 months ago)
Would the Savonius vertical axis wind turbine be viable if it were made of plastic? You could make the turbines must cheaper by plastic injection molding instead of having to make a metal turbine, I think. Plus you could use recycled plastic for the turbine, couldn't you? . I am no expert but I would think that a plastic rotor could be made strong enough. Is there something I am missing?
Mert Garbonite (25 days ago)
Leif Johnson the electric motor, gearing/ transmission control electronics and grid inverter/ battery storage are the expensive bits, your right about plastic being strong enough but sunlight can degrade plastic and its outside constantly in the elements so it's a trade off
Harley Me (2 months ago)
old technology, but still a bad choice.. LENZ vawts are ultimately more effecient from the push/pull design of the actual airfoil. mine is about the same size as that one but it puts out 1kwh of power ( MOUNTED A FOOT OF THE GROUND)
What if you made a cheaper electrostatic version of this wind power? Where the spinning of fans will cause it to mechanically rub the carpet or similar material to pvc pipe rapidly and generate large amounts of static electricity. You then convert this static electricity to AC or DC power. The taller the pvc pipe the better. Attaching pvc pipe on terrace of a tall building or top of a mountain even better. Covering pvc pipe with copper coil on the inside even more better.
Persian empire??????????????????????????????wtf
kramli krisztian (2 months ago)
Can I get the downloadable design of that Turbine ?
Victoria Brown Frank (2 months ago)
Would like information on your product.
johannes thomsen (2 months ago)
Well done friends, keep on, keep on.
69NOMAN69 noman (2 months ago)
great turbine for turbulent air! omni directional turbines rule!
Shaik Arshad (2 months ago)
I hope as solar panels reached to common people's house soon we can generate wind energy also at our home by fixing it at the the top of our home...😎😎😄😃😉😉😋😋
Craig Barton (2 months ago)
I cringed so hard when the narrator called the wind turbines "wind mills". You'll find those on picturesque fields in Holland.
Shakti Shekhawat (2 months ago)
Explore India... Its a huge market..
Sallie Skakel (2 months ago)
"One of Wind Power's Biggest Problems I thought that this videos would be about the slaughter of birds. I moved to the Columbia Hills (which flank the Columbia River in Washington State) in 2000. In 2000, anytime one looked at the sky one saw hawks and eagles circling; when driving down a country road paralleling the Columbia Hills, it seemed as if there was a raptor perched on every telephone poll. Then they built the wind farms. Now all the hawks and eagles are GONE, slaughtered by the wind turbines. WIND TURBINES ARE EVIL. Or, perhaps I should say, conventional wind turbines are evil. It looks like this design will prevent bird-kill. Perhaps it will replace conventional turbines, for efficiency reasons. DISMANTLE ALL CONVENTIONAL WIND TURBINES!!
Account New (2 months ago)
this is just crap.. its way easier to burn something and have energy
airmuseum (3 months ago)
They are placed high for the necessary propeller clearance. No energy source will ever beat nuclear for efficiency, reliability and safety...that's right... safety! Get over it.
Alex Setyapranarka (3 months ago)
It has more surface to catch the wind than the classic one
Khang Văn (3 months ago)
Hey Boom Boom Room Positive people always success. And you do Negative people earning their hard life. They chose and let them deal with it. Have a nice day
Gordon Adams (3 months ago)
I saw this tech about 20 years ago. So why isn't it catching on?
Priscilla Ross-Fox (3 months ago)
I would like to see them bird friendly
Aaron Stone (3 months ago)
It looks like a device for bitch slapping birds.
chadkincham (3 months ago)
Wind turbines currently in use are serious noise polluters, people can't stand to live near one. And they are infamous bird killers. There are people who's lives are ruined when those wind turbines are built near their homes, from the horrible noise, and they can't sell their homes and move: no one will buy them, because of the noise.
Fran Tackle (3 months ago)
Magnetic propulsion is the future of all our energy needs when used in the correct manner wtfu movement
wazza33racer (3 months ago)
In most locations........the wind does not blow 70% of the time............how have they solved that?? Wind power horse hockey.......
Beau Beaubien (3 months ago)
In Iowa I have seen Wind Turbines that were built in the 80s/90s and are still producing power
TheBigMclargehuge (3 months ago)
Wind Power's biggest problem is sustainability. Waste of money, waste of time, bad for the environment. Nuclear is key.
G Finlay (3 months ago)
Imagine if they added a few of these to all the pylons throughout the UK.
Bruno Leonardo (3 months ago)
Now in 06/2018 this project still is a project, is so "revolluctionary" but is not working, is not ready so far.
Amanda Anderson (3 months ago)
This would be great here in the Mojave desert. Even in low wind conditions it's still wind!! This would definitely give the energy company a run for it's money. I would love to have one in my backyard and get off the grid.
ComocosonoEWL (3 months ago)
You have to be pretty stupid to think "most people don't even know what it is. They think it is a sculpture or something..." Fucking idiot. That or people in Iceland are retarded. I am going to go with the "former nuclear engineer" that now makes turbines out of a small shop. Probably why he is a former nuclear engineer. lmfao
David Smith (3 months ago)
Where was Thor's hammer?
Erick G (4 months ago)
Been waiting for these guys for 2 years and they haven't come up with the turbines... Maybe they went bankrupt or something!
Rocknrolladube (4 months ago)
They should just put gears on the conventional turbines so that there is more resistance in faster wind. That the gears would just generate more power, while slowing down the turbine. A gliding transition like some Mitsubishis have.
Litecoin Lucky (4 months ago)
Who else is waiting for thunderf00t to debunk.. ;P
Marian Standen (4 months ago)
So cool, these should definitely go Global
Mikhail Alexandrovich (4 months ago)
Yeah, it's called a nuclear reactor. And instead of replying to this, type up a resume and get a job you dirty hippie
Za Ha (4 months ago)
What's the Coast of a Miniature Wind/Solar power Engine?
Chuck J (4 months ago)
NREL National Renewable Energy Labs (US) stopped all testing on VAWTs because of inefficiency, unreliability and high cost of maintenance. I live close to an NREL test site near Boulder, CO. There are many standard 3 blade designs that undergo testing. As a hobby, I did a lot of research into renewable energy, especially wind turbines. Despite looking cool, I discovered that the VAWTs were essentially worthless.
Rafaela Mora (4 months ago)
I want to know how much?
renragged (4 months ago)
I've created a solar powered wind turbine. It totally kicks ass!
bigwhitehound (4 months ago)
So how fast after learning about this tech, did the U.S. and other oil/coal kings try to ban it? Oh sorry... require a "study" to test it.
Tortuga (4 months ago)
Very little information provided.
Marek Špot (4 months ago)
Thor and Sea Thor? It´s just logical these two mythical heroes have godly powers :)
Michael Crumpton (4 months ago)
It is not even close to being a new idea. Google Savonius turbine. The Savonius wind turbine was invented by the Finnish engineer Sigurd Johannes Savonius in 1922. The Savonious gets less efficient the higher the wind speed goes. It is fine for low speed things like water pumping or low power needs, but is very low efficiency compared to conventional turbines. The fact that it starts spinning in low wind is useless, because there is nearly no usable power in low wind speeds. The power available in wind goes up as the cube of the windspeed, so doubling the windspeed gives you 8 times as much power. 7.5 minutes of 8mph wind is worth 1 hour of 4mph wind is worth 8 hours of 2mph. BTW this is not even close to windpower's biggest problem, storing electricity for when you need it is.
Score Fuxxon (4 months ago)
The problem with this tech is that it can't be built GRANDE without also having a netted cage around it which must be as big as the wheel itself if it's to be mounted anywhere near where people or animals live. In its current design, it's a so called "Bird-eater/exterminator". . ;) We have the same problem with the "S"-shaped vertical windmill. Excellent tech, but Seriously Dangerous to everyone around it. Many little kids fingers have been eaten by that one. ;)
wizbangIWD (4 months ago)
You know how they keep saying that eagles get killed by the big windmills ? ( I think it just opponents of windmills that are saying it ) it would take a very stupid bird to kill itself on one of these type. in fact I don't think anyone would believe it if they said these were killing anything. well I don't know about you, but I definitely want one of these bad boys at my house, in fact I want a dozen ! :D
Seal Clubber (4 months ago)
Haha, he looks at the company president and says, you’re idea is 100s of years old
Stu Redman (4 months ago)
I would be curious to know how many ft pounds of torque it can deliver at various wind speeds to drive a generator of a certain wattage.
lohphat (4 months ago)
Traditional bladed fans fail because the feathering gears malfunction. It's simple to twist the blades so they're not catching the wind and stop in high winds.
granskare (4 months ago)
this was old tech, I have seen this but I think BRIBERY was the feature why we did have have this type.
Bruce David (4 months ago)
Hold it a second, your name is Ashlee?
Assimilate71 (4 months ago)
If they asked, I would pass on my design for a control system that allows the turbine to continue to work through any wind velocity.
R N (4 months ago)
Thor. And SEA thor
yfelwulf (4 months ago)
And most of the time it will sit doing nothing like all wind turbines

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