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Well be honest, laws greatly vary from place to place because of how the group sees things and what they decide, as a group, is right or wrong already. That episode just simplifies the process. Small towns where everyone knows everyone judges each other and acts based on opinion. Same in smaller groups like work or social groups. It's how society works. I love the famous people that get accused of something are smart enough to just stay quiet. Itll go away usually. Apologizing just gets the mob to sink its teeth in.
I have to admit I went into Orville with low expectations and looking to shit on this series. I'm no fan of seth mcfarlane, his comedy is one trick and repetitive but alongside the Cosmos series with neil degrasse tyson, Orville is very good smart sci fi tv. It does play heavy with 90's Trek nostalgia but hey it worked for force awakens
What this generation needs is a good wake up call just because someone choosed their words poorly doesn't mean they deserved to be brutally punished by the left. The thought of having this kind of generation makes me fear for the upcoming generation because the vocal minority seems to have some sort of power if they are able to get them fired. But what the Vocal Minority needs to realize is it even worth harassing this person? Is it even worth making someone jobless if not homeless? Thats why if i make a joke on twitter and a group of vocal minorities get offended i'm not making a public apology because thats how they feed off too your submission.
The media doesn't really care about what their actions will do, all they want is a title that can grab someone's attention and gain profit. The media is a business, not a philantrophic factual news source.
And now you know exactly why I stay away from twitter, facebook, instagram and other social media sights and go by a false identity strongly.
because the world is run by dumb jackasses that think ruining peoples lives is the greatest past time. Seth Mcfarlane has nailed this idiocity time and time again, and this episode perfectly encapsulates this idiocy
Enjoyed the show for 4 episodes but after that the constant "inyourface" with social justice issues made me puke.. Shows need moral stories but here I experienced a "superiority complex" in the story writing. to little is left to the audience : the writers seem not objective enough.
Meh, from where I stand, McFarlane is playing on the same team as SJWs, they all wage the same crusade against the (dying) judeochristian civilisation. McFarlane may be a representative of an older, less imaginative generation, surprised and perhaps a bit turned off by the jacobinical zeal of the youth, but let's not kid ourselves, their worldview and goals are basically the same.
Well said Dave and respect to Seth Mac Farlane for bringing this awesome episode into Mainstream Media!
After I finished watching, I thought for a moment whether I really just saw that! =-o
Most shocking is, a lot of it is already true today here in the so-called free world and not just in China:
- People prefer to denounce wrongdoers online rather than telling them right away they are doing something wrong
- People of a certain ethnicity voice loudly feeling insulted if people of other ethnicity wear their ethnicity's clothes
- Online likes determine whether a person should or should not be associated with
- "Offenders" are dragged onto the media to amplify the hate against them
- Fake news (like the video of La Marr returning from war welcomed by his dog) can influence the masses
Luckily we don't have Lobotomizations yet, but seeing how things are going it seems to be just a matter of time.
Sad but true.
The mainstream media these days have lost all sense of the nuance and balance they do not want to be balanced they have chosen a position and will pursue it at all cost for some to sell more papers and of course some more clicks and for some it is winner take all so do any thing to win.
Dave, I really enjoy your analysis of these shows and topics. I've been VERY impressed on how the Orville has shown us a lot of character twists we are not used too (broken or flawed characters). Also, the episode storylines have been wonderful. I just hope they don't try and outdo themselves each season. I've seen that happen to other shows. If it is a good well written show you are doing a great job. I hope they don't think they need to do more each season. Can you also do an episode where you would let us know some of the story ideas you would like to see the Orville tackle?
I refuse to recognize anyone who acts like the people in Majority Rules as pro-justice in any fashion.
Anyone with wisdom knows that in order to have justice, you must also have context, and that the punitive action should only be demanded when it reaches a given level of seriousness.
There is a fine line between justice and vengeance.
In short, try not to be judgmental hoof bags, please!
6:44 . yes. remember the bush years in america? the renamed french fries fricken freedom fries, dispite the fact that, prior to the frenches responce of "lets not jump into this half cocked" , american tv depictes french people as sexy, many "center american" , as far as east & west went, large cities, claimed some proud french haritage, like st. louis & new orleans, &, we mainly were STILL considered generally grateful to france, for the statue of liberty. then, because they disagreed with ONE idea, that, the majority of americans disagreed with anyway ( invaiding iraq ) , suddenly, the whole fricken culture changes. THIS IS NOT NEW. it needs to STOP , but its not new. : (
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Social credit score is real in China. Purchasing too much junk food, having a friend who went bankrupt could lower one's social credit score. Consequences might include poor job prospects, or being banned from riding high speed train in China. People are finding ways to cheat: people with high social credit scores are selling their friendship online.
The victorian minister would NEVER have said such a thing about a black or dark skinned people, but white honkies are fair game. Sorry, given Victoria's complete lack of action to deal with mobs of violent africans causing mayhem due to political correctness, the cow deserved it. Here in Australia we are sick to death of PC madness and anti white prejudice from the mainstream political shills bashing whites.
Your thoughts on SJW is right on the money and you couldn’t have said it better. Seth MacFarlane and the Orville puts the cards right on the table for everyone to see. This scares the hell out of the left to be so openly exposed. Do I want to see Jim Crow laws make a return? NO! So I am at a bar in Ekit Nigeria and a British man hears my American accent and wants to pick a fight over the treatment of the American Indians by white people (yes he was white). Before it went to blows I looked at him and agreed 15%. He said what in the hell did I mean 15% in a angry tone. So I explained that I was 15% Cherokee Indian. I went on to tell him I was part Latino, British, Irish, French, German, Jewish, Eastern Europe, and 2% Nigerian. He calmed down once I bought him a Guinness.
Just watched ep 7. In the scene where the 2 guys didn't stand up for the pregnant woman, you have to appreciate the subtle jab at SJWs, where they reported the 2 guys but didn't actually stand up for the lady themselves.
Yeah, but if it gets rid of another useless, entitled, fat, ugly feminist in Australia's increasingly matriarchal and utterly misandric excuse for a government, I'm willing to let it slide this time. As for _The Orville,_ it also is a bit too fish-friendly for my taste ... while the captain's male, he's portrayed as childish, self-involved and (of course) at fault for his former wife/first officer making a whore of herself, the physically strongest person aboard is (of course) a whiny, insecure little twat, all male crewman are portrayed (of course) as pretty much overgrown children, the "Blob"-like character voiced by Norm MacDonald is pretty much (of course) a perv, the doctor is (of course) Mother Africa, Pillar of Strength, whose little hoodlum children are just fiesty, needy and misunderstood (of course) as opposed to needing a good ass-blistering with the nearest belt or switch, etc., etc., ad nauseam. In short, you could easily title the show _SJW Clichés In Space!_ and be *completely* accurate, but I am willing to give MacFarlane a couple of seasons to get the show's bugs, social or otherwise, worked out and/or minimized -- he always seems to start out slow, but he usually gets there in the end.
I'm going through this right now... peers trying to destroy me. I'm a good, giving, selfless person, but one time my actions are misinterpreted and my intents are misconstrued. I'm now the devil and being raised on the cross to be burned alive like a witch during the witch hunts in Salem. Do they care? Nope. FML. Literally, I'm fucked. Thanks world, for all the good I've done it means nothing. Good bye.
I this and the "Millenial" episode of Family guy shows that Seth McFarlane is starting to get better at political satire, and getting to where he is truly funny again. Early on, he was able to get big laughs at general slapstick humor, absurdity, and over-the top parodies o general things. He kinda lost face a bit around season 7, when he began a period of Political soapboxing, and simply attacking opposing views with straw-man arguments, and heavily-one sided swipes, in the way of Stephen Colbert, or Jimmy Kimmel. He really faltered during that time. and I don't say this simply on often being on the other side of an issue, even in situations where I found myself on the same page as seth, or example, his episode about "Anti-Vaxxers", (yes, I believe vaccines are essential to healthy growth, and disagree with Anti-Vaxxers), I find that that kind of straw-man arguments and political grandstanding to be condescending and intellectually devoid, not to mention utterly lacking in humor, and an ineffective way to deliver an argument.
Now, that he is going after both sides, and doing so in a over-the top parodic manner, and even the occasional self-Demeaning joke, we may see Seth McFarlane as a creator "Growing the beard" per se.
Hopefully, he keeps up with a formula of both the absurdist comedy akin to his early days, as well as a satire that takes the piss on both sides of the political divide, even to the point that he takes swipes at himself.
Of course, I have my disagreements with some of his views, but despite being on different political sides, (with the rare point of agreement), I can respect any comedian who can effectively take the piss at both sides, (and not just in political issues, but in other aspects as well!) and mock the more extreme aspects of them, like that of Matt Stone, Trey Parker, Jeff Dunham, Carlos Mencia, etc.
Hopefully, Seth can keep up that, and not fall to the level of Stephen Colbert, Bill Mahr, or Jimmy Kimmel.
As an Irish person I find it deeply insulting...... when other people get offended on my behalf. We're not a soft people, we've seen some shit. I think we can take a bit of craic, shit we're famous for it.
Ban all forms and any forms of Social Justice Dystopia (Spoilers) which is a form of political correctness at all costs for it is against the HUMAN RIGHTS TO BE FREE TO FREE SPEECH AND THUS THIS EVIL Social Justice Dystopia (Spoilers) must be banned, criminalized, illegalized, outlawed and anyone practicing it will be punished heavily and penalized heavily. America is a REPUBLIC, not a democracy which is mod rule but a Republic which is RULE OF LAW not rule of the majority masses which is mod rule which has to be banned, criminalized, illegalized, outlawed and anyone practicing it will be punished heavily and penalized heavily.
So the world is hollow and I have touched the sky. Original thinking there
And the Athenian democracy carried to the illogical extreme was done in the 80s with AD2000 (judge Dread)
As far as the idea of saying no to people knock on your door I don't restrict it to any Accents in a Tradesman knocks on my door obviously is not getting my business if they were did I would have called them.
One exception minors who are going to cut my yard.
Heh. The Orville is just the latest to ring the bell. Orwell did it in 1949, and he wasn’t the first. What did Pogo say so long ago, “We have met the enemy, and they are us.” If we’re not smart, we’ll fail this great Great Filter we’re facing.
Are over sensitive people going to lead to full on War at some point in the future you got that damn right, and we have no one to blame but ourselves because we let sensitive people running around and gave power to peoples voices, just because you have voice doesn't mean that you are important everyone's has a voice everyone has opinions but when people become too opinionated and too vocal that's when stuff gets Rocky. You have to make your opinion matter the whole concept of the moment you're born we are given a small sense of entitlement when people tell you "your opinions matter" that is further from the truth and people don't accept it. It's okay to have an opinion it's okay to have a different Outlook but sometimes people need to realize there are some of us that aren't fucking special and we forget that because we are told everyone is special.
But I agree with you when it comes to sensitive people find excuses to get mad and upset and will take anything out of context just so they can be angry over something
I wanted to like 'The Orville', but, I just don't.. It should be great, Family Guy humor with a live action, Star Trek theme, sounds fun! The dialogue is just soooooo bad though :( I never made it past the first five or six episodes.
I'm actually not personally offended by insults or teasing on social media, but I was bullied as a child, back when I was still hypersensitive; I've learned to take it with a grain of salt since then. That said, I have seen how that behavior affects people, and I don't think it's too much to ask to treat other people with decency and dignity. Emotional and psychological abuse can be every bit as destructive as the physical or sexual varieties, and our society deems those forms as assault. For people who would cite the First Amendment, that only limits the influence that the government can have on the media and free speech. It does NOTHING to justify publicly behaving like an asshole with no regard for other people's self-esteem. If you feel the need to be callous or cruel to other people in a public setting, there should be consequences.
Totally agree with you. Majority Rule was my favorite episode. I hadn’t heard about the story in Australia; that is ridiculous. I’m an American who is 3/4 Irish and I’m not offended by her comments; she was going after a particular group who happened to be Irish. I mean, I may not have the Accenr, but my last name is KELLEY, so I can’t really hide my Irish blood too well. Lol.