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Firefly never caught on for me. I found the characters unlikeable and little more than bland stereotypes who occasionally become mouthpieces for his ideologies (which, based on Buffy and the Avengers, seems to be a rather common trope for joss whedon). Also the setting was not to my liking: I’m a bit burned out on the small scope of westerns, and technology hasn’t taken such a dramatic leap backwards as in firefly since 1) the fall of Rome and/or 2) EA’s Command and Conquer 3
I was watching it when it was on fox and even though it was aired out of order I still loved it and still to this day. It was sadly taken from us and that sucks. I got it when it came out on dvd then got it again when it came out in HD and still watch the whole series and Serenity both about 2 times a year. Still my fav show of all time. It is still sadly missed that there was not more of this. I am going to go and cry deeply that it was canceled.😥
Spot on assessment! I’m a Browncoat till the day I die. The only problem with the show is once you’re done binging it you tend to go into withdrawals and a sort of sadness seeps in when you realize that there isn’t more. Luckily the comics help to ease you back into the real world. Great review, thanks!
It was the Pax, the G-23 Paxonhydrochloride, that we released into social media. We intended to suppress aggression and dissent. At first it worked, people stopped dissenting....and then they stopped everything else. But there were others with a different reaction. A small minority of 11% had the opposite reaction. They...voted for the Alternative für Deutschland. We were wrong. Please, if anybody finds this recording, I am sorry.
I think Firefly is a god-awful TV show. Space Western really? It's supposed to be 500 years in the future and they're walking around with projectile weapons. It reminds me of Terminator when dr. Silberman is questioning Kyle Reese and he asked him don't you have like ray guns? Where are the damn ray guns?
Firefly and Cowboy Bebop were both written by a ghostwriter. Both shows were cut short after the writer was not paid. You are missing half to three fourths of all the episodes depending on the show and there are others as well.
Every time I watch Firefly there is a keening mourning in my heart for what could have been and what Fox murdered! I honestly hate Fox for their stupidity as the only reason Firefly failed was because of them, hands down. Yes, there were other contributing factors, but not as so lethal as Fox. That name is just death to anything that has a trace of goodness in it which will now only get worse since Disney got their hands on it.
If I ever got the chance to speak to Joss about this show about a potential continuation of the show I would never want to try and leave exactly where the show left off or with the same characters, that just wouldn't work, it would end badly, very badly. With this in mind I'd love to try on a continuation without the audience even knowing it was in the Firefly Universe with a completely different set of characters. Now you may be freaking out saying "NO! That sounds terrible!" Well, just hear me out with an open mind. Firefly started out with specific set of characters doing a specific thing and to try and duplicate that in any way would just disgrace it. Starting out fresh in the same universe is the only real way to progress if we EVER want to see ANYTHING Firefly related EVER again.
So essentially I was thinking that while this wouldn't be a crew in a nearly as rough a spot as the crew of Serenity were (living on the fringes, just barely getting by, living and operating in what is considered to be a terrible ship by pretty much everyone but them) they would have some relations in certain areas but distinct differences. Example: Their ship would be some model classic, something that in its heyday was highly reviewed and to this day is still considered to be a highly reliable ship, even if it is a bit out dated (thus a small tidbit of relation to the Firefly class while being far from identical.) What's more is they would be operating far more within Alliance controlled space, almost as much in it as Serenity lives and operates in the Fringes however, they would have a calmer, more undertoned resistance to the Alliance. It wouldn't be readily known to anyone not living aboard the ship that they hated the Alliance as they didn't allow anyone on board (while in Alliance space anyways where it could be officially documented) who had ties with the Independents or any other group that had opposed the Alliance or did so currently.
Now, in beginning episodes the name Alliance could be brought up a few times but audiences would be unlikely to immediately draw conclusions that it was the same Alliance as was in Firefly (thus letting them know it was in the same universe) but as more terminology was used Firefly fans would definitely catch on. However it would only be known for sure when said crew would be in the fringes of the system doing a low on the books smuggling job and they happen to accept a co-job with a member of the crew of the original show Firefly (probably Captain Malcolm Reynolds himself) and as such make it openly known. Now this would only be essentially a cameo for the old character/s and they wouldn't really get any long term position on the show for a lot of reasons, firstly being that in a way that would be in a way an attempt to bring Firefly more directly back into the picture and bring it back in general when for reasons we've already discussed would be unwise.
In truth I think this is an awesome idea and about the best bet I've been able to think of to bring on a continuation of the series and I believe the series DESERVES a continuation and I hope and pray one day it does, it really, really does.
I hate it when people blame things on far left despite of the fact it happens as areaction to widespread far fight movements. I understand why people hate them and I even agree on some issues but they are not the real problem. Want no far left nonsense? Stop being a racist and building walls around everything. That would actually help the kind of freedom you want here, since peole can actually go anywhere they want.
Yep, perhaps the best TV scifi series ever. Like you when I recently watched, I couldn't help but feel that it felt like a metaphor for the place where the far left seems to be taking any of us who want to retain our individuality.
"...giving the madness and rising tyranny of the far left and the EU" - are u fucking kidding me???? In every country the far right is rising or in power! An they spread their agenda of fear and hate. I understand that neither extreme side is beneficial but dude, we are living definitely in a time where right wing is on the rise! And that is fucking scary, 70 years ago we have seen where this can lead to. -- Beside that, I totally agree with you about Firefly - epic show :D
This was one of the best....EVER. GREAT, GREAT characters. How NETFLIX or HULU haven’t jumped on making this a series.......crazy. They could give us 8 seasons....no doubt. Especially with the film feeding the series...Mal and The Operative crossing paths again could set up a whole season alone....I could deal with a few years of Inara and Kaylee....I know most of the boys can!
I mean, mostly agree including the romance of the frontier but not sure what tyranny there is of far left Internet keyboard warriors or the EU, which barely has a functioning bureaucracy sufficient to hurt anyone.
You video is good thank you but I dislike your anti EU bullshit. No major wars in 50 years plus in europe and you think they are authoritarian when all you have to do is look at the dickheads across the ditch spying on everyone, bombing 8 countries, invading 3 and torturing people.
I have Firefly and Serenity on DVD and mp4. It's one of my favorite ever television shows and I've even got some of my friends into it. Although I did not discover it until around 2010, I watch it about once a year as you do.
Left and right are both bad .. The problem with humans is that we cannot seem to be able to live in peace without centralisation and bureaucracy which happens everywhere pretty much naturally ... This whole Brexit is almost entirely unrelated to limited government, but just another form of protectionism and blaming anyone but those with the power of making policies: mainly UK ruling class and to a smaller extent the EU.
A positive of such a short lived series is you can binge on it over a weekend and it never feels like homework...I watch the series and movie at least once a year.
If you want to experience a poor man's Firefly movie watch the episodes "The Train Job", "Ariel", and "War Stories" in one sitting. R.I.P Firefly....gone but not forgotten.
....and yes, "pain is scary."
I must correct you on one thing. The firefly is a very good and simple story about the effects america felt after the civil war .. the north and the south didnt fight over slavery! They fought for the way they wanted to be governed ... strong federal goverment vs strong local goverment (state)
I was introduced to the series and movie by a friend. I've been a Star Wars and Star Trek fan for life. I went into this series with an open mind. It's truly a unique and entertaining series. I like it a lot. Mal is sort of like a Han Solo character prior to ANH.
Some things about the series that are interesting...the Chinese culture and language is everywhere...but there are literally no Chinese characters in the show. Also, if you're a conspiracy theorist, it seems like The Pax is a reference to fluoridated water.
I loved the idea that the core crew if the ship were formerly rebels and that, given the nod from Mal, would be again. But that Mal had become jaded and cynical... The characters, including Jane, were incredibly deep.
I openly weep for the loss of Firefly.
It is a show that has held the test of time and one of the most original things ever aired on TV.
I openly curse those executives that had no faith in it's premise.
Long Live The Browncoats.
Yup, Firefly is absolutely top notch. The only reason I might value SG1 & SGA more is... the wealth of episodes they had the opportunity to create. IMO, the abuse and then cancellation of Firefly is definitely the greatest transgression and tragedy in the history of television. And likewise, bad promotion and lame financial performance of Serenity is also a huge transgression. Maybe too few humans value liberty and freedom today. Without a doubt, humans are a failed species.
the reason why this show didnt make it because...they had movie quality graphics in it...it had great strong fanbase but couldnt continue with the level of graphics so they canceled it... and the movie was made to finish it off
One of my favorite lines from Mal was said to an Alliance officer who was interrogating him in regards to his service in the Civil War that went something like, "We weren't on the wrong side, just the losing one."
Another one was when some of his crew were being fired upon and one of them exclaimed, "They're trying to kill us!" To which Mal replied, "Well, KILL THEM BACK!!!"
picked this show up in dvd in a two pack with Space Above and Beyond.
Sat on the shelf for months before i finally got around to watching it, and marathoned the show after the first.
the suits screwed both shows royally.
It's surprising you didn't mention the thing Whedon often does when his shows are cancelled. COMICS. Now that Whedon headed into full-feminist-hypocrite territory (just ask his betrayed wife how much the SJW credit is actually worth) I shudder to think what a "reboot" of the Firefly universe would be like. The comics at least are a continuation of the characters and stories that made us fall in love with this short-lived series... with your own imagination filling in the voices and acting of the live actors.
This was a great show . Sad we never got a second or third season but I don't want a new season with how Joss has been acting. God damn I had such a crush on Kaylee and Christina Hendricks was freaking great in this show <3
A potential major hobbling factor would be that you simply would not be able to recast ANY of these roles.
Plus, not sure what you'd do since Serenity wrapped up the most major of the continuity, i.e. the Alliance pursuit of the Tams. And the graphic novel "The Shepherd's Tale" (very very badly) gave up Book's backstory...tho that GN raised far more questions than it sought to answer.
And finally, with both Book (Ron Glass, RIP) and Wash gone, the show just wouldn't be as interesting. I mean seriously, who could replace either one of these characters...or ANY of them, for that matter?
It's great to dream about a resurrection of one of the great Sci-Fi shows of all time. But I just don't see it going over well as it seems too much time has passed by.