I don't know how long your 2x2s are. But, after watching your video I went in search of $1 2x2s and didn't find anything even close to that cheap in a 6' length.
Good video. Especially the audio: no uptalking, no synthesized narration, just good old fashioned normal and easy to understand spoken English. That's becoming somewhat a rarity on YouTube.
Why is it people just cannot leave other people along! Do you really believe your place in this world is to try and force your beliefs on others. Tend to your own business. I'm sure you've got your hands full!
Not minding your own business is despicable.
It works perfectly for beans and peas. THe cucumbers did grow up it but I didnt really see an advantage to it so I just grow them on the ground now. I am still using these same ones 5 years later. The bottoms are a little rotted off but the still work fine. Might need to replace the wood after this season.
I use the same thing, only, I use metal fence T posts and attach the grate to them so the plants grow straight up. No need for crawling under to pick the cukes, easy access to both sides when growing straight up. Doing this leaves plenty of room for lower growing complimentary plantings. Works great for peas, pole beans, melons and any other vine plant! Nice video! Thanks for posting!
+Mindy Tucker Hi Mindy :) do you do watermelons straight up and down? they say the melon will hold its own weight when planted vertical, i'm thinking of trying this :) and when you say metal fence t posts do you mean those green fence posts? with this metal he's using? thanks so much for your information...
I have been using a trellis for several years and I had one very similar to this one. You need to spread it farther apart at the bottom so you can crawl inside to pick the cucumbers. They are much easier to find and pick from the inside.
The worst thing a person can do is till a garden, it kills most of the worms. The "Back to Eden" garden system is a much better way to go. I did not till my garden last year and I applied a layer of composted wood chips and this year I have so many worms I almost can not believe it. I have never had worms in my garden like this before. When a garden stays covered through the winter it insulates the ground and the worms and soil life keep working through most of the cold days improving the soil. It took me 40 years to learn this; this spring I was able to get my potatoes out really early because I did not have to wait for the soil to dry out enough to till it. I did not have near as many weeds and the weeds that did come up were very easy to pull out. Do a search for "Back to Eden" at youtube, there are quite a lot of videos about it.
I realize this comment is years late, but had to ask...would spraying the panels with a rustoleum type spray for outdoor furniture or things that rust, would that have helped without being poisonous? That may have prevented them from rusting.....considering doing this for my garden...
for slugs I just put down some boards around the garden. In the morning I turn them over and start a killin'. After a while there aren't many to kill. In fact some times it's a week or so till I finally find another. Oh, and make sure it is slightly moist under the boards. That will draw them in like a mouse to cheese.
I'm not the uploader of this vid but I have used this method for at least 10 years now, not only for melons but tomatoes too. My garden is in full sun. There has been years I planted almost too late but I have never had an issue with the wire getting too hot. Unlike this fellow I use actual cattle panels which are galvanized and heavier duty. My wife just weaves the tomatoes through the panels instead of tying. I use steel fence posts to tie the panels to. When it comes to watermelon I do use the smaller variety which to me has a sweeter taste. When the melons are ripe they fall off the vine but I have yet to have one burst probably because I till my garden every couple of weeks which makes the soil softer.
I have grown green beans, cucumbers, and cantaloupes on metal fences in Texas with up to 20 days of 100 degree temps with no problems. I used metal stakes and a small amount of concrete mix to hold my fences in place to withstand the winds. I attached the plants to the fence with pieces of panty hose.
Mr. Rice, Crossing between members of the curcurbit family is rare. If crossing occurs, it will not show up in this year's fruit but will be evident if seed is saved from these fruits to plant in next year's garden. Many people rate off-flavored or strange- colored fruit with cross-pollination, but it is usually caused by environmental conditions or disease.
Another idea for the slugs: diatomaceous earth. It comes as a powder and you can pick it up at some garden shops, but definitely in a good pet store in the fish department. A little sprinkling around the base of your plants will keep the slugs (and other bad bugs) away and won't harm earthworms.
I'm glad you didn't find pressure treated wood as it's toxic. It's better to just change wood when needed after a few years. I'm wondering if you can put a coat of wax on the metal to help keep it from rusting longer?
Mary, Myself I use cattle panels and steel fence posts. These are sturdier and galvanized. I have done this for about 10 years now and there is only a little rust on both. I got started with this because I had a bunch of steel fence posts I was not using. I originally bought 3 panels. I liked the method so much that I kept adding more panels every year. I have had no issues with the wire getting too hot or cross pollination. I like this method because pests are easier to see, especially those that like to hide under leaves..I also don't have to drive the fence posts in too very far to get them to stay.
I have used this method for about 10 years now but unlike the fellow who uploaded this video I use cattle panels which are galvanized and much stronger. They come in 16 foot sections and I use steel fence posts to attach them to. I have NEVER had a cross pollination problem. We use this no only for melons but for tomatoes too. My wife just weaves them through the wires. Our garden is in full sun but I have never had an issue with the wire getting too hot.
When you buy the cheaper wood for outdoor use, if you want it to last a long time ..just do one of two things.. either use a coat of latex paint or coat it with a food friendly type of oil that will soak in the wood.. wipe off the excess and let it sit a few days before using it.. both work great and will make your wood last 5 to 9 times longer.. same goes for pvc pipes.. paint with latex paint..the kind for outdoor furniture.. it will extend the life at least 4 to 7 years..
that's a great idea for us city dwellers who need to maximize what little space we have to work with, and best of all,, I can put large hooks on the fence (4X4 posts) for storage of them when not in use!
Diatomaceous earth will fix most insect problems. DE food grade is non toxic for humans, and is awesome to use. wear a dust mask, don't breathe the dust. Its ground up seashells and is very abrasive to mucous membranes.
I would go to Lowe's and get a spray bottle of Plasti-Cote or similar product and spray the wood where it goes into the ground. A good shellacking of the rest of the wood every two or three years should keep it functional for a lifetime. I believe that after the plastic coating is cured there is very little in the way of chemical leaching.
Excellent idea. Next year I will build mine like these. This year I used bamboo for support and cattle fence for the trellis. Slugs do not like salt. Matter of fact a tiny sprinkle of salt on a slug will kill it. I wonder if pouring a small bead of rock salt around the outside of the garden might keep them out. I think rock salt may even weather a few small rains before totally dissolving. If anyone has heard of doing this or know that it works or doesn't let me know, Thanks,
They worked great for the cucumbers and green beans. The melons didnt grow well but I dont think that had anything to do with the trellis because the ones I planted on the ground didnt do well either. I still have them and they are holding up strong.
CCA wood preservative hasn’t been used since 2003, and the alternative, ACQ contains copper and CCD. Copper is not toxic in the amounts used in the preservive (copper poisoning is very rare, usually involving cases where someone drinks Copper Nitrate or Copper Sulfate). Copper is naturally present in many foods (avocados, beef liver,etc.). CCD isn't particularly toxic to humans (message me if you want links to sources :-) ). No effect was seen until doses in the lab exceeded 83 mg/kg/day.
I used the same mesh for a trellis to grow chayote. Mine have been up for over 20 years and although rusty they still support a lot of weight. The chayote shade a bedroom window in Summer. Then the leaves drop off and the sun warms the room in winter. Hope you check out my video sometime. Thanks for the great idea!
Modern pressure treated lumber using copper azole is actually safe for use in the garden. My 12'x12' raised bed is fenced with 2x12 copper azole treated boards. It's the older pressure treated lumbers containing chromated copper arsenate (CCA) that present chemical seepage and poisoning concerns. The lumber industry has essentially abandoned CCA in favor of copper azole since about 2004-2005. I did a lot of research prior to installing my bed to make sure I wasn't going to poison my family.
I like this idea, you might have soaked the ends of the 2x2's in a pan with linseed oil or something to make em last.
I actually used these same panels to make tomoto cages, I'll try to post a response vid of how I did it.
I also was looking into to putting a trellis for my melons and cuke and needed some ideas... one ,ittle tip when shopping at lowes.... and if you dont care what it looks like ask the lumber yard guy for "junk wood" they sell it for 1/2 price , the wood i used for my coop was all junk wood all pressure treated for around 1 dollar each...
Thanks for the trellis idea!! I was knocking ideas around in my head that would save me money, and your vid was what I needed!! I've got some wood left over from my chicken coop and some chicken wire. Now it will be free!! THANK YOU!!
Very nice! I like how it folds too!
My cantaloupe and luffa vines last year were reaally strong. I think you'll be ok w/ the cantaloupe.. unless the concrete reinforcement wire (that's what you have) is too thin...not sure about the watermelon though. but like you said it will be good to see!
It really looks like a great set up! :-) Thanks for sharing this!
@theeastwatch The plants are planted at base of the wire so that shouldnt be a problem. I left the middle open so I could get in there if needed. I am hoping the foliage grows on the outside of the wire and the fruit grows inside. I will check out the link but Im pretty sure my slugs can kick your slugs butts. : ) lol
The only problem with that setup is that you do not have good access to the bases of the plants... If you have a bug or disease problem, it may be a pain to address...
otherwise looks good.
Haha you fell into the classic Zhucinni trap :)
I have the Slug world capital where I am... check out SlugShield com - never used it, but it looks like it will work, I'm gonna see if my local supermarket has copper pot pan pads...
@JRSKICK1 Yea Im dubious about the melons as well. I have seen a few videos where it worked pretty good. I have also seen some people need to support the melons in different ways. It should be a fun experiment.