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In the movie they sum it up great when Lilah says, "People need a man who knows how to beat the system within the belly of the beast."' And Angel replies, "Doesn't that usually mean you've been eaten?"
In other words they think they're in control, changing things, but are in fact just being manipulated. Which they later realize thanks to Lindsey.
So when you consider 90% of the media is now owned by 6 corporations, you have to wonder how much we're being manipulated by the information that these "special interest groups" provide.
"The West is simply too emasculated and morally weakened to stand up for its self and it's values." I completely agree with your next sentiment. China and Russia (and probably other countries who call themselves allies of the US) are wringing their hands, laughing their asses off and biding their time until they know they can defeat us for good.
Sucks the show got cancelled, or well it ended but mainly because of the network being stupid (the waiting until the last minute to let actors know if they would have another season or not apparently).
Would have liked if they would have had one more season or something to adequately tie everything up instead of rushing it, it seemed like. Great show and a bit of a shame more people I know still haven't seen it.
I'm probably going to get a lot of shit for praising Jeremy Corbyn here, but: One thing he said that I thought was perfectly true was how it was a tragedy how Osama Bin Laden was killed when he should have been brought back to the west to stand trial and been forced to answer for his crimes, not because it's the huggy wuggy thing to do, but because it show's we're better than a bunch of murderous thugs. It shows we have principals. I'm a left winger and I despise the current behaviour of the left, cosying up to murderous dictators and apologising for religious fundamentalists. It's not even a left vs right thing any more (Don't forget what those fucking frauds did to Bernie Sanders) It's neo-liberal scum vs anyone with a moral compass. If any right wingers want some unexpected allies, just ask a left winger what they think of identity politics, if they wince or look uncomfortable you have an ally (just don't harp on about Venezuela or socialism, most reasonable left wingers just want a solid social safety net, better treatment of the poor and hate how identity politics is basically the age old tactic divide and rule)
I've always found it interesting that Proggie hero Joss Whedon wrote such non-Progressive characters as those in Firefly, for example. I truly believe he yearns in his heart to embrace the ideals exemplified by those characters, but is unwilling on a conscious level to abandon his external identity as a good Social Justice Poser. =^[.]^=
I was born in 1995 and thanks to angel being on every week morning in reruns w/ smallville on TNT in the 2 hours before i went to school I saw every episdoe probably 3 or 4 times. Loved it as a show and i didn't even know it was connected to buffy
I really enjoyed Angel, Boreanaz, and his cadre. Angel was before SJW insanity had truly gone down the rabbit hole. Too bad Whedon came out as an insufferable SJW himself, but I for one can't fault him for Angel.
"Not An apocalypse, The apocalypse. What, did you think a gong was gonna sound? Starting pistols went off a long time ago, and you're already two soldiers down." Serious chills at that part. Especially when added to not accepting the world as is.
Anybody seeing the ridiculous self-contradictions in the most recent episodes of Agents of Shield?
They're trying very hard to paint this virtual world (that all our characters are currently stuck in) as an evil Trumptopia or some shit. Well-meaning people who've involuntarily found themselves with the potential to have super-powers are supposed to represent the poor begotten illegal immigrants who get taken away by government agents. Evil Fitz says "We WILL... make our society great again." Simmons tells a brave young ANTIFA stand-in who just tagged her stolen car "They're ALL Nazis. Every last one of them," referring to now-dominant Hydra... who literally WERE Nazis in Captain America (unlike real life "Nazi's" who magically became so by voting Republican). And... ya know. It's okay to punch a Nazi. An evil newscaster who's a puppet of the evil government managed to wedge in the phrase "alternative facts".
On the surface, it's really trying hard to send an anti-Trump message out to viewers. But at the same time... a lot of what the villains are doing in the show is SO much more comparable to Hillary, Obama and the MSM in general. There's a scene where they find a bunch of teenagers getting brain-washed by drugs and propaganda on a screen. And it's like "which side does this actually remind you more of... you clueless fucktards?" They're using all the right buzz phrases, but underneath that, they seem truly confused as to which side they're advocating for. Which side actually does most of the horrible shit that they are seemingly so against. All ideological virtue-signals and 0 self-awareness.
Well, he actually never even talks about globalism in the video much. I think he wants his Bilderberger reference make the point to globalism. However, the whole season was much more about growing up and doing corporatism.
Well, the new Fox show APB has quite a bit of female empowerment bullshit going on in it. The usual scrawny and small woman taking on men much larger but the guys that portray cops need to be much larger per the casting call. Also women with shit for brains when it comes to tech are portraying CTOs and tech gurus but again the casting call for men requires some in depth knowledge of tech speak and know how.
Diamondinmyeye omg yes! The shiny happy 'everything is perfect as long as we all have the same thoughts and feelings' crap and if you dissent then you're the enemy! Jasmine preached authoritarian control of the masses for her perceived 'greater good'
Hah. Loved this show back in the day. Never noticed the parallels at the time.
I do now see the themes of Islamic terrorism in the episodes of Stargate SG-1, especially in the Ori story arc with their believers trying to subjugate the galaxy's non-believers. Funny how no one had a problem with the idea of stopping them.
The Ori are basically any religious fundamentalist. It's just Islamic fundamentalists seem to be getting a free pass these days. The funny ting is there's not too much water between a christian fundamentalist or an islamic one if they're extreme enough (well maybe their targets) As a left winger I'm disgusted tat so many on the left are capitulating to fundamentalists that want nothing more than repress women's rights, limit free speech and advance their own vile and twisted ideology.
There are plenty of people willing to stand and fight. Trouble is they are afraid to do so on their own. The sheeple's herd mentality has been so embedded in their psyches that they fear isolation and individual repercussions. They not only need a hero - a shepherd - to stand and guide them, but also a motivation to follow him.
One of the most inspirational vids I have seen on this is the Battle At Kruger Park when a herd of docile wilderbeasts turn on a pride of lions to save one of their young. It took the motivation of seeing their young in mortal danger and for one of them to say NO and they followed and overcame.
In our increasingly isolationist society where we a discouraged from interacting with each other due to crime, racial or religious differences, or simply encouraged to communicate through the sterile medium of social media, we forget that we are the many and they are the few.
That is some heavy stuff. No wonder the show got canceled! lol.
I really like the points you've made here, I had never really looked at it like that before. I can definitely see how the characters finally rejected the world of relativism and went back to their root by taking a hard stance for what thy truly believe in.
Although like one of he comments below the real villain might have been the capitalists.(I'm not a big fan of raw unregulated capitalism although it is needed sometimes, but with light regulation and a little community support it's great.)
I really loved the show Angel, it was brilliant. I wish they made more seasons, but the ending was pretty good.
You've made me want to go back and watch it again. I ....Must ....RESISSTT....TempATION........OF MINDLESSLY WATCHING>.....teleVISioN,........AND Actually do something .....WITH my LIFE!......(to be continued...)
Dave Cullen, you really need to be a regular host/guest on LBC (Leading Britain's Conversation). They seem to be very unbiased, definitely something the BBC, Sky, CNN and the like aren't, they have anti-establishment guests hosting shows as well as pro-establishment. You'd be great on there shutting the pro-establishment zombies down.
+PriestOfFilm Indeed. I've listened to several of his shows and while he does have 'some', not many, interesting perspectives he has a magniloquence attitude towards topics he doesn't personally agree with. He often fails to grasp views of those which differ to his own. I would like to see Dave Cullen have a conversation with him.
They are certainly more open to many political and societal outlooks and speakers, but they are still inherently to the Left due to the most prominent of their speakers - James O'Brian, I believe his name is, is simply a black hole where all nuanced discussion is compressed down into nothing by his own narrative and cognitive dissonance.
I always found Joss to be a conundrum. In real life he is a progressive and liberal to the core. In his work (like Firefly) he is a rugged individualist who believes big corrupt government is bad. Sad he doesn't see the truth he writes about.
I find a lot of people on the left like this. (Edit: John Stackhouse) There's a Canadian Professor of World Religion who gives talks to Prime Ministers, Ministers of Government etc on the realities of Islam - because he knows the material so well he can put the argument down to the exact details of what is wrong with the Quran and why it's incompatible.
However, I followed him on twitter a while back - he's a complete leftist on every other matter.
It amazes me how he can get around knowing full well how the left lies regarding Islam, but then he doesn't seem to question anything else they propose?! He's not a dumb guy by any means - I just cannot fathom the dude.
We're watching the western world's last gasps of free thought. Unfortunately there is no going back. The worse thing is, that Islam is going to take over the west, don't believe me, look at Sweden and the UK. I don't think the left will enjoy life under Islam.
mapesdhs Coming across your verbose and erudite comment has both impressed me and astonished me that somebody would inject such an excellent essay into the veritable maelstrom of YouTube comments. I think we'd make excellent friends good sir. Do you have a Steam or Telegram? I'm sure we could have many interesting conversations since I find myself agreeing with you so wholeheartedly. Also, please do excuse my playful pretentiousness, I'm rather sleep-deprived atm.
you actually want to know what can happen from this, when enough Muslim have invaded Europe there is a strong chance that a European First movement will rise up and a new crusade of sorts will be called to save Europe and though most likely it would be bloody and much of Europe will burn it may result in the idea of pride for being European, much like people have pride to be an American. If European Pride takes root then you can have a political Union of Europe as a single global super power.
Very good analysis! Can I point out that when there is the part where angel goes to sea in coffin. That could be the pinocchio/jungian idea of diving to save your fater/culture from the bottom of the sea. I know he comes out bad but who says your values in your culture are neceserily good. Then there is that blue thing and Freddie. I am thinking that could be analogy for some ideologue. As the worst idelogues are just enpty shells spouting rethoric so too is the new freddie lost all personality that makes her her. But this is new ideologue serves well against fight against evil.:)
Lol, once upon a time cuck actually had a very specific meaning, but now its been so overused it literally means nothing at all. "I disagree with this persons politics... CUCK" "This person has a world view that is somewhat inspired by having compassion for others... CUCK"
I think you're wrong here, Dave, insofar as the programme isn't so much anti-globalist as it is anti-capitalist and therefore a leftist narrative of fighting the Man. I very much doubt that Hollyweird, which is pretty much the creative outlet for the socialist narratives in the States, would do anything other than promote the Globalist, anti-capitalist agenda. In this way, Angel isn't fighting the Globalists but rather fighting the evil capitalists.
I just finished re-watching the entire Angel series so its very fresh in my mind and thinking about what you just said makes perfect sense. So Angel represents Trump and America First then Spike must be Nigel and #Brexit. I'll never look at Spike the same again
How's this for an odd coincidence, my name Rolf Paterson Thorne Hartmann lines up almost perfectly with the firm. Rolf means wolf, Paterson is Scottish so stretching I could make a connection to sheep, Thorne is not even the more conventional meaning since it has the e at the end it actually means a breaking force or demon, and finally -Hart-mann. Even the order has stark similarities.
I loved Angel season 5, and really wish they could have had a season 6.
Josh Whedon must have nightmares of fighting himself to the death. They are probably even more scary when he realizes that the self he thought was correct and good, turns out to be the weaker and evil version.
The BadMan Keeping in mind that the right really tried to keep the peace and the lying, bigoted, intolerant, knuckle-dragging left with no critical thinking skills started it, just like they've started virtually every violent conflict in the last 20 years. Even the left doesn't pretend to be the party of tolerance and peace anymore, they are Hugo Marxist zealot acolytes who are out to convert or kill.
+Larry Rudedude ''guns are too quick, you can't savour all the little emotions'' I have my katana and machetes ready for action, being a european. It might sound sociopathic but guns will not give me the satisfaction i desire.