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Excellent review! I can understand how terrifying this ‘drumhead trial’ could be for someone accused in such a situation.
Bringing any ideology into any courtroom will ultimately harm the process. I thought Michael Dorn was also very good in showing that Worf was treating the investigation in a neutral manner, but not being the one who was leading it, felt guilty for helping.
Looking at the comments, I just want to say it's not a 'left' or a 'right' thing. People like that exist in all places, championing all sorts of opinions and causes. They are the hypocrites, the grandstanders, the false champions. They say what *some* people want to hear, and it gives them power. What they say *sounds* good in a way, but their actions can betray them, as it did in this case, where an 'arbiter of truth' (so to speak) presumed naught but villainy in everyone that didn't agree with her.
They are the 'nice guys' who are misogynists, they are the 'freedom and truth' champions that are suspicious of anyone different than their own narrow definition of 'us'. They are those that think themselves above decency because they have 'right' on their side.
Sadly, a lot of commenters are rather missing the point.
the issue i have is that someone taken over by the Borg and used as Picard was used would not be ever fit for command again
but this is a TV show....
with valid points on issues like this one, predicting what is being done to Trump
This episode, and indeed this series, was so ahead of it's time, you'll notice that she accuses Picard of being in league with the Romulans, of which she has absolutely no evidence. Same thing happens today, just think of any SJW accusation: "racist" "bigot" "anti-feminist" etc. none of which has any teeth, but they scream it anyway.
As long as society is obsessed with political correctness, and authoritarian rule, space exploration will be nothing more than an unachievable pipe dream, and the possibility that this planet will be our tomb, is very real indeed.
The Dave Cullen Show
WELL SAID! In a way, "Antifa" and the "SJW" are just LARPERS! They are like the little boy in the alfred Hitchkock suspense "BANG you're dead". though FAR less innocent. In that suspense, nobody got hurt, he was a little kid, and thought he was playing....Though, at any moment, the target could have been KILLED.
Antifa and the "sjw"s feel they have NOTHING to lose, and go out to play superhero, or more appropriately super VILLAIN, BUT, in the end, they just go back home to their grandmothers basement.
Donald Jerkoff Trump is the biggest piece of shit every to run, much less become POTUS. They should just change POTUS to POS because you don't even have to be able to read or have critical thinking skills now. I can tell you're a republican by other videos you've posted. I can't fathom why. You don't seem like an inbred moronic scum bag.
Star Trek Next Gen will never be dated. The issues it tackles is done in such an organic process it's writing sises to amaze me, give or take an episode. It needs to be school material! Rather then Commi shite.
Dave Cullen, ME LIKES YOU!! This same type of concept on reasoning also reminds me of the scene in Goodfellas, when Tommy keeps asking Henry "How am I funny?" After some manipulation, Henry realizes that Tommy is just pulling Henry's leg, and calls Tommy's bluff. In turn, Tommy laughs "I worry Henry. You may fold under questioning!" A sadly true fact, seeing as Tommy was just bullshitting around. Whereas police and FBI use many forms of deceit and manipulation in trying to probe for whatever they can, even if what they say is completely false. A technique not born from, but enhanced by, Nazism, and then McCarthyism! Satee's investigation is not only a fiasco, but also a complete FUBAR! And we all know what FUBAR stands for!
Hmmmmm! Interesting Video @The Dave Cullen Show - Its an episode of TNG I have not seen but one I must watch...
I have been critical of your opinions on some of your videos, but they are just that - Opinions... And Opinions are like Arseholes, We all have one... But here in this video, I see that you are a far smarter man than I have ever gave you credit for! I am proud to say that just watching a few select videos that have come in my 'Recommended feed' has gave me a false impression and I was WRONG ABOUT YOU!
You know, I think you may just have quite a few more views coming your way... :) I am never too arrogant to admit when I am wrong and I did indeed misjudge you and your channel! I WAS WRONG and I am looking forward to viewing many more of your videos!
I find this an interesting episode for you to review. You speak of how terrible SJWs are and compartmentalize their views. You’ve turned SJWs into this boogieman that any sign of a minority in power is SJW propaganda. Any time there is a white villain it is SJW propaganda. Anything not “traditionally good” is SJW propaganda. You’ve effectively countered their drumhead trial with your own drumhead trial.
This is my view on what is going on:
We hit a really good sweet spot with representation of races, genders, orientations in media about 15 years ago and things were good for about 10 years. Around then it came out that minority and female thespians were still being paid less than their male counterparts on average. When that blew up things shifted. The trends at the time I felt were good continued, but people were making it a political statement. In response, the group now being marginalized “white males” answered with their own political stance. Because one side was on the left the other side had to be the right and that is further dividing the country and because everything is political we are getting less good media.
Just like with so many other problems in any country we need to bring this back to the middle, have a conversation instead of yelling at and blaming the other side and understand that both sides have many legitimate grievances and many more petty stupid things that are not big deals.
Yes, I am saying that the left and SJWs started it, but it isn’t the right’s job to finish it.
Many people on this thread seem so quick to point out that Patrick Stewart was just an actor, and that celebrities should not be confused with the characters they play (like Jean Luc Picard). They also shriek about how celebrities should stay out of politics, and “shut up and act”. Or sing, or throw a football, or whatever they do to get famous.
How ironic is it, then, that so many of the people who say these things are the same sort of people who are most likely to be up to their eyeballs in hero worship for the phony celebrity “businessman” Donald Trump?
The producers of Trump’s “Apprentice” show have admitted that they created a character for Trump to play, and his actions on the show were scripted to make him seem like a powerful, smart, decisive tycoon, because that’s what he imagined himself to be.
In actual reality (as opposed to on a “reality-show”), Trump is a two-bit thug and failed trust fund baby who couldn’t even run his tiny family office, which never had more than a hundred employees at its largest. After he bankrupted that company for the SIXTH time in the mid-1990s, Donnie reached out in desperation to a collection of shady foreign mafia figures, who now dominate Donnie’s company, and let him and his moronic sons think they’re still in charge.
Trump is nothing but a bad actor. Now he’s trying to act like a President, but the part is way too big for him, and he long ago lost the script. People who support him have a lot of nerve to criticize people like Stewart for being “just an actor”!!
There are no mustache-twirling villains, but not for the reason Picard gives Worf. The bad guys may sometimes masquerade as good guys, but actual villains don't know (or don't believe) they're villains. They think they're the good guys doing what''s right. Why? Because most all mistakes are made with good intentions, and certain mistakes once made can be too painful to admit (especially if they're criminal) (see TNG episode _The First Duty_ for more). To try and fail is hopefully to learn that good intention alone is not enough to make things right, but those who do no learn that lesson will refuse to admit they are wrong whenever they make mistakes. It can be a very painful lesson to learn; when their best isn't good enough, they have to admit that they lack some virtue or strength or skill or the willpower to succeed. Any who refuse to make that humbling admission go on to make more mistakes, proudly continuing to do what they still think is right, blind to the mounting evidence that they are wrong. Eventually after a long chain of mistakes, the cognitive dissonance they experience becomes too much, transforming them from redeemable sinners into irredeemable villains. In other words, if they look like the good guys, it's because they _want_ to be good. And if you fail to detect the evil in them, it's most likely because they fail to see it in themselves.
Boy talk about missing the entire point of an episode. Only a dudebro would twist this into an attack against the dreaded SJW ie anyone who defends minorities against guys like you...wow. Stop using Star Trek as a platform for your bullshit
Villains who twirl their moustaches are easy to spot, but those who clothes themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged. I remember that I instantly though back to this quote when the Jimmy Saville scandal came out in the UK.
The same Patrick Stewart would defend the same thing now with the anti-white anti-hetero student morons, sadly like rest of the Hollywood harpies - and a fanatic feminazi being the baddie ? Ha Ha Ha ! So accurate today
Thank you. Im not a subscriber til now. I watched some of your vids but it never sparked realy. Well with your words of wisdom you suceeded. Our times can be scarry familar right now... To things we have seen in the past but what most of us need to understand. Nor Trump, nor the NRA nor the AfD (Germany) or Erdogan (Turkey), Putin (Russia) or how they are named and where they live are spokesman for majoraty... They are loud screaming minoritys.
Sadly Minoritys who are moved by screams their force is fear and loud proclamations. But they arent right. They say no to everything because its easier to be against spmething than to be for something. They want you to say no too. So they can pull you into their machinery of more fear.
How it worked out we see in the US and Germany, In Russia and so on... The good hearted humans are far more. But we make the mistake to think that our words dont weight, we dont want to be responsible, we think its better not to vote ro shut up and live on because its easier and who am i to save the world?
We are humans we all bleed red, we all breath air and we all know fears... If we want to become a easier societie a better societie we need to watch, wake up, say yes to us because whe as a single person matter, yes one person alone can't change the course of our homeland Earth... But we can build a better future where no one need to be feared. If you still want it easy and say No.
Say No to guns
Say No to fear
Say No to witchhunts
Say No minorities who try to shove there fears down your throat!
Say No to every one who says you must be in fear.
Say NO to everyone trying to manipulate you like a puppet. Your words matter, your actions matter, your decisions matter. You matter. And you decide.
❤ from Germany.
As progressive as Star Trek is, TNG gave a very realistic depiction of what happens when you give power to the wrong sort of women. Admirals Satie, Brand, Nechayev, etc were all mentally unstable tyrants who were outraged when Picard or another shitlord dared to defend himself when made the target of baseless accusations.
This episode needs some updated catch phrases.
"Jet fuel doesn't melt diilithium"
"What if one Romulan smuggles a dirty bomb in with the refugees"
Leaving out the most famous quote though? "Must we extinguish a man because he carries the blood of a current enemy?"
You also let Worf off the hook really, really easy.
It's kind of funny that you have a video titled "Picard Warns Against Witch Hunts and Mob Rule" to make gross over-generalizations about groups of people. Not all people who stand up for minorities are bad.
I've been thinking about this episode and the parallels it has with our brave new world recently. Picard's last few lines should be seen as the devastatingly accurate reflection of the world that they were and are.
Picard(Patrick Stewart) was hands down the best startrek actor to ever exist, with Brent spinners data coming in hot for the #2 slot
But even richers blatant rip off of Kirk was way better than even Kirk(we even have the growing beard idiom now because of how well he pulled it off).
I'm so infuriated that we will never see a good star trek again,im sorry but the fact is Gene Roddenberry knew his show and knew his fans and he produced a damn good thought provoking show that inspired half the tech gadgets we have today. What is a tablet other than a tricorder?
The reason why DS9 sucked and why all the new iterations suck is simple, gene Roddenberry said it himself, people want to see the good guy win, people love a black and white easy side to pick conflict ds9 was shit because it attempted to do grey scale morality mixed with a space soap opera(ehk). No that's not what people want they want the good guy to get the girl and beat the evil guy, they want to see justice done because real life has no justice. They watch startrek to live vicariously through these officers in a world where all problems are solved and the good guy always wins and the bad guy acually learns his lesson and changes(somthing Japanese shows are great at is when they defeated a foe they don't just kill the guy,no they change their morality like in DBZ, every bad guy from the last arc becomes a good guy in the next, vagita,majin buu,android 18 ect... This level of defeated is a million times more satisfying than just killing the foe,it proves to all YOUR morality is the right way,that you are ultimately right.)
The reason I bring this up is because gene Roddenberry also did this, for instance the Klingons were bad guys but ultimately they saw the light,the federation didn't destroy them they *changed their mind* thats so much more powerful then imperial conquest. Same for the Andorrans they changed their mind.
The new startrek is horrible they used it as an sjw talking piece when that's not what startrek was! Yes it was always liberal and progressive as fuck the first black and white ppl to kiss on daytime TV very powerful! But they didn't push it on us,it happened naturally it wasn't cringy it was exiting and new. They could still push progressive agenda in this way but since they lack a visionary like Gene they will always fall flat and produce cringy sjw garbage.
The last scene was where you spoke of authoritarianism and the opportunity for certain groups to gain power spoke very clear to me, if you look in UK, The Brexit vote and how some of the Pro EU camp and many are saying people should not have had a say on the subject as it was too complex for the average person and decision like that should be left to the "experts" to decide the fate of the population, I find that authoritarianism.
During the campaign I found many people who I spoke to who wanted to stay in the EU unwittingly supported authoritarianism in their reasoning, The theme of the experts was the common one, That they're educated enough to make these choices for us but many contradicted themselves in their arguments especially when I asked why are you voting.
I found it strange why people are in favour of someone else taking their freedom away to vote on certain subjects that greatly effects them personally. Weather or not the vote to leave the EU was right or wrong isn't the point, Advocating the idea people cannot vote on certain subjects is dangerous and I cannot believe many people are willing to let other people decide for them.
Because once they take away something from the public then what's stopping them doing it again?
I think what is missing here is compassion (and possibly also curiosity). Satie could have become draconian for the sake of power but there may be more to her back-story than this. She is a prominent office-holder in what is usually depicted as a very civilized body politic and had a renowned freedom-loving father. Why has she lost her way?
My speculation: Romulans and the Federation are in a cold war. It is likely that she has had to deal with genuine instances of Romulan deception in her career (behaviour we _know_ is characteristic of the Romulan regime). She has thus become fatigued and suspicious as a result and now simply assumes Romulan intrigue rather than seeking proof.
Ridiculing and isolating Satie may have been a necessary short-term solution but in the longer-term it would be better to look at why she became jaded and how to address that. If nothing else, quasi-legal officers need fully-paid holidays from the rigors of spy-hunting. Indeed, we all need to take a step back, now-and-then, from our various cold wars whether real, exaggerated or imagined. :)
Of course the admiral is a black man, I guess there is still affirmative action in the distant future. It's the rule of tv, the boss/whoever is in charge must be black. Star Trek was pretty sjw before there were sjws. I love the show but it def had its share of PC progressive bs shoehorned in there.
Nice analysis of a fantastic episode, that is applicable to all, no matter one's political affiliation or system.
There are similar concepts and metaphors that come about.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions...
For evil to flourish, good men have to do nothing...
It is reminiscent of the modern concept that one who sacrifices freedom for security will lose both and deserve neither.
(Of course, the correct quotation from Benjamin Franklin was referring to money, and not liberty or freedom, as the message of the modern equivalent has mutated into. The quote is below:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." — Benjamin Franklin, 1755 letter.)
I did think the episode was a little ham-fisted at points, and why would the current admiral who was supervising say something instead of walking out? As an admiral, surely he can restrain his emotional response and take action — it didn't seem right for him to just leave, although it works for a story/teleplay. There were a couple of other niggling parts, and it seemed out of character that officers would allow the tribunal/hearing to get as far as it did.
Unfortunately it seems a part of human nature to distrust and even fear the other as if even exchanging pleasantries is enough for the other to do unspecified unspeakable things to what one holds most sacred. This is one of the most pitiful aspects of the human race.
On 7 March 2018 World at One on BBC radio 4 played an item about “sensitivity readers” who can be hired to review new books to check whether the material written will offend people. One novel being reviewed concerned the romantic relationship between a slave girl and a master’s son in the antebellum South. Due to some notes made by the “sensitivity reader” the work was dropped; to be fair the writer seem to over-romanticise slavery.... but still. In the same piece, to the best of my recollection, the same female reporter stated that “literary criticism is alive and well in New York and people gather to laugh at the works of established male authors.” It would be best if you confirm this by using iPlayer.
How about "virtue signalers" like evangelicals? Or like people who just like playing with guns cloaking themselves in their interpretation of the Constitution? This behavior has been a staple on the right for decades at least. It shames me that the far left now emulates them. In fact, the right made their "virtue signalling" official by putting "under God" in the pledge of allegiance, and replacing our great national motto with the vapid, "In God We Trust". Bad as I think the SJW movement is - they have been expanding human rights for the most part - over the opposition of the right. Gay people have equal rights under the law for the first time ever in the USA. Women have the right to terminate a pregnancy. Trans people's rights are now beginning to be respected. They do have some very absurd and, to use their favorite word, problematic ideas about free speech and sexual relations - but then the right has had those all my life - they are just upset that equally foolish people on the left now want to do to them what they happily did for years to others. hen I was a kid in South Carolina in the 1960s, my dad got a $20 ticket (real money back then) because our car would not start, and he was looking under the hood, and whatever he saw frustrated or angered him, and he said (fairly loudly) "God damn it!" in public. Has any SJW ever written you a ticket over something you have said? I'm sure many of them would like to - just look at the campuses that have "speech codes". But to pretend that this behavior is new, or something the left started is either ignorant, or dishonest.
This is an interesting video - but you should adjust the introduction to remove the words "social justice". While it is true that SJW loons behave this way, they are FAR from alone - and not even contenders for the title - yet. The far right is far worse about this and the behavior is equally destructive no matter who does it. recent one, gaining some popularity is based on conflating the myth the Hillary sent 20% of our uranium to Russia when none left this country and Hillary was a minor part in it, with the recent Wikileak of documents show that Robert Mueller gave uranium to Russians on an airport tarmac, to make it seem like part of a vast conspiracy. This is intended to discredit Mueller. The truth is that Mueller delivered a 10 gram sample of some highly enriched uranium from smugglers so that the Russians could test it themselves and prove that it did come from Russian facilities in the effort to get their security services to cooperate in the investigation to stop the smuggling. But the "drumhead" people on the right only see Hillary + uranium + Russians, and Mueller + uranium + Russians, and many have taken this as "proof" that Obama, Hillary, and Mueller were all involved in supplying weapons grade uranium to Russia! This is not to mention that after nine separate investigations of Benghazi by a hostile, GOP led investigating committee with no evidence of wrongdoing, the right still thinks she committed crimes in that incident. Or how about "Pizzagate" which, at least as of last November was considered true by 23% of Republicans with another 28% unsure!
I’m a proponent of free speech but this obsession with identity and SJW is getting out of hand. Can the left and right, instead of focusing on this issue constantly, move the debate away and talk about meaningful and forward thinking issues.
ST:TNG remains to be the greatest Star Trek production, For story, Actors, Characters, & Design. This Ep is one of the best.
I could not imagine the current production ownership in charge of the Star Trek IP, making anything even half as good as ST:TNG. They seriously need to watch this series, and learn from Picard. Watch Picard, and learn. Before they try for the reboot series currently in the works.
- Yes, if you have not heard, they are planning on rebooting, for a new star trek series. To be aired on CBS.
Why is it that the truth so easily illudes people? Let me break this down...
While Dave is correct in his point that the left wing uses social justice to promote some form of neo-communism, today's right wing has happily taken up neo-fascist ideologies spearheaded by a policy of "the truth is what we tell you it is."
The left is out to tell you how to live your lives, but the right is out to tell you what reality is. Crazy times we live in now, crazy times.
Oh, it didn't escape me that a right wing vloger is using one of the most left wing shows in history to make a point. Slight irony there if I do say.
It's impossible to listen to this insipid dog-whistling bullshit narrative and not wonder where your disdain for "witch hunts and mob rule" was during the entirety of the eminently racist "birther" movement? ...or during a half decade of utterly feckless Republican investigations into the Benghazi incident? ... or the similarly pointless Republican-driven Whitewater investigations of the late 90's?
These critiques, of course, haven't even gone down the right-wing rabbit hole of inquiring as to what sorts of outrage anyone purporting to reject such tactics must feel in regards to the ongoing, ignorant, asinine and indefensible persecutions of the gay, lesbian and trans communities at the hands of anachronistic, bigoted, rightist bullies and petty tyrants. It's kind of strange how none of *those* examples of "mob rule" and "witch hunts" managed to make an appearance anywhere in your ostensibly neutral, though patently ideologically-motivated, hollow diatribe, nor, apparently into any of the similarly worthless bits of rightist tripe posted by the hordes of your similarly inerudite followers commenting below...
Why, it's almost as though none of you *actually* have any qualms whatsoever about these tactics, _unless/until they're directed_ *at you* (or those in your equally, close-minded, backwards tribe).
Pot, thy name is kettle...
PS: FYI -- for those who had trouble keeping up, that last line was me calling you all intellectually-bankrupt hypocrites! Cheers! 👍
Spreading fear in the name of righteousness... I want others to listen to the arguments of those becoming popular on youtube these days, the "counter-culture" as it is today. Listen to their reasons why their opponents are dangerous, vile and evil to the point of cutting them off completely. Invoking emotion while simultaneously declaring emotional decisions bad. All the while at the crux of it all even if only hinting as such that their cause is righteous.
I've served on 3 juries in my lifetime, 12 people forced to come to a decision... together. It seems like people have lost faith in other people. Someone can not dismiss social justice just because. Dismissing SJWs sure is an effective technique though and unfortunately we've now seen it work in a very brutal way.
Is there a feeling like there are witch hunts occurring today and that the justice system is incapable of dealing with it? Really?