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Dave, you didn't understand the movie. It's not about humans or characters, It's about Gods and their creations. You shouldn't be bonding to humans in this movie and you always know that woman will survive in Hollywood movies anyway. David, he is the main character of this movie. Think of the biblical sense of this film. Engineers created human, Weyland who is human, created AI David with very high IQ, more than any human could dream off. He is perfection of what human could be, like the statue of David in the first scene of the movie. He is immortal, guess who else is immortal? You are right - God. So Human Weyland created a perfect immortal creature David. Than David kills engineers, who where the creators of a human, for whom engineers were Gods. So God kills other Gods and than he tries to create a new, perfect form of life! And this references to the bible when Walter and David are like Cain and Abel. Cain and Abel where the first two sons to Adam and Eve, first two sons of Weyland! When David kisses Walter like Juda kisses Jesus before stabbing him. And after this, you say It's the same movie like all the predecessors? You just watched the wrong way when the story was in front of you.
FYI, the rifles they are using is the (f88 austeyr), and it only fires semi-automatic or 3 round bursts, making it fully automatic would not make it more effective against the aliens, it would actually be less effective, as it would be near impossible to use and land a hit with all that extra recoil, a better and much more effective weapon against the aliens would be the (AA-12 shotgun), it can fire full auto and maintain almost no recoil, it would also be better using something like buck shot, would make it easier to land a hit on the small and very fast alien new born.
I agree with most of what you say, but the parts I enjoyed were because of the similarity to what made the originals great. I suppose rehashed sections done well are better than a film that is simply shit.
That said, there is a massive continuity error. If David is the creator of that particular strain of xenomorph, how then does it end up on LV426 aboard another bone ship. Thoughts, anyone?
remember children when exploring a possibly hostile or even alien environment there are a few things that will help you survive. first for god sake keep your environment/space suits on and don't taken them off out side a quarantine area until your sure there isn't some on planet that gonna wreck your day (hell this doesn't even have to be something outwardly hostile like the xenomorugh, something that may be harmless in its own environment but could be deadly to us soft humans. honestly its like no one has ever read war of the worlds in these movies) 2ed walk softly and carry a very big gun. and also double tap always double tap, and if needed burn the xeno trash. 3ed. Never trust a robot, syth or corporation. 4th never fallow someone into a mass grave yard
I gave this review a like even though I'm a fan of the alien franchise. Don't get me wrong your review was spot on and your score in the end accurate. This could have been a great movie Prometheus was ok not that great but it was a setup for the next movie. It left people in suspense and hoping to find answers about the engineers. No one cares about the Xenomorphs(aliens) their story is done there's no mystery to them. What people really have is a fear of the unknown and the Engineers are an unknown.
This film killed any interest I might've had in future alien movies. I don't care if it's by Ridley Scott or that other guy people were getting so worked up about a while ago (which I was in the minority of not giving a shit about). We had one great, seminal movie, an equally phenomenal sequel, and a flawed but still interesting third movie that wrapped up the story. That's enough for me.
Thanks for saving me the time and the heartache. I actually thought Prometheus was a vast improvement in the franchise -- clever with a hook to a greater mystery. To find out that the movie makers threw that potential down the toilet is discouraging.
Personally I kinda liked the alien killing sprees in these movies and the overall premise and special effects, what really annoyed me about these movies was the needless recklessness of the crews of both ships and the crew of the original movie, the total disregard for the dangers of an alien planet and it's wildlife, like have they no fucking modern probes or rovers to check these places out beforehand, the most laughable was the guy in promethious trying to pet a fucking alien snake, or in covenant that they think its perfectly safe to go on a ten k hike through a fucking alien forest, the aliens are supposed to be highly intelligent perfect killing machines and the films would have been much more believable if it was them coming up with ingenious ways to kill and impregnate the crews instead of the crews putting themselves on a fucking plate ✌
Also apparently you only send complete idiots into space to colonise a new planet.
They visit a totally unknown planet and stroll around without any precautions whatsoever, then they get truly stupid.
Such a shame, wish we could wipe every Alien film after Aliens and just start again, or not at all....
Put a gun in your mouth? Come on, it was pretty awful, but it really wasn't that awful... I found myself mildly entertained, but another film I would never even consider watching again - I guess Prometheus set the bar pretty low, I actually think this was marginally better than Prometheus. I agree with everything you say otherwise though - just that it's not "please kill me!" bad like say, Highlander 2.
The rating system you gave at the end of this video had me mawwwhaha-ing in total agreement! Terrible project that was purely made to artificially enchance Ridleys ego. No brains, no thanks. Stellar review!
as a moderate fan of the series, particularly the first two i was also disappointed. i felt it was the weakest entry, even more so than 3 or resurrection and that's saying something. eventhough ridley scott started this franchise i dont think it's best he remain at the helm
I really enjoyed the lore. To me, Michael's character was actually a hero. It's his love for raplace that causes him to create the xenomorphs. They are her children. SOunds contrived I know, but I really found it fascinating how on the surface it's pretty simple, but they manage to world build and finally explain the origins of the xenomorph.
The one standout element to this film's story that you did not mention: David INTENTIONALLY genociding the Engineers, as explained and depicted in an inexplicably brief flashback scene. It had some real potential to make the story go into uncharted and intriguing territory... I almost got excited, got my hopes up. But then it very soon just reverted back to being a teen slasher film. :(
I liked this film. Actually, I like my extended version of it. I fixed some details that bothered me. Of course, the theatrical version is far from being a great film by itself. I don't know what people expect to witness from movies about killer extraterrestrials. Monsters are for B class movies.
This film was my third favorite movie of last year I thoroughly enjoyed it. Also I very much enjoyed Michael fassbender's performance. I thought it didn't excellent job merging Prometheus and alien together. This movie is very enjoyable and fun 😡😡😡 .
I agree in particular with the point at the end. A good movie can have suffering and evil deeds -- take Schindler's List, for example -- but the more evil and suffering, the more payoff there has to be to justify them. The "good guys" don't have to win, but there has to be something that says that, win or lose, they really were right. A story that is just depravity after depravity with no payoff is simply an evil story. My impression is that the Saw franchise is that way -- at least, it makes no effort to portray itself any differently. Furthermore, some depravity is so extreme that I doubt it could be justified with being fully shown in ANY movie. The Hunger Games are about children being forced to kill each other FOR ENTERTAINMENT -- and these movies are watched by our own society FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
This was a great review. I agree that this movie has no deeper meaning and was utterly predictable. People seem to be watching it purely for the grotesque scenes where people's stomachs explode. You forgot to mention the feminist angle of the Alien franchise. The last-standing character is always a short-haired female who manages to be tougher than all the other male crew members combined.
Prometheus was so much better. And that's another great disappointment. I thought this would leave off where Prometheus ended. It is only vaguely related to Prometheus, story wise. It has answered none of Prometheus' questions, and only raised more.
One thing in particular that I do not understand is this: In Prometheus, the Engineers were trying to get ready to attack Earth with the 'black goo' 2000 years ago, as those Engineers were lying there that long. Then, in Covenant David takes that very ship and flies to their home world, or another world of their's. Now, that ship is allowed to enter the planet, and dock to cheering crowds of Engineers. Why are they cheering? Why are they not confused about this 2000 year old ship suddenly being at their planet?
It makes no sense.
If Augustus' ship from 2000 years ago sailed into the Roman harbour at Ostia, Italians in 2017 would not necessarily cheer, I think they'd be very confused as to what it is doing there, how it got there, and why only now?
Alien 3 was hardly derivative. By all means it had a lot less clichés than Alien, was considerably less cringe worthy than the 'save newt' section of Aliens and despite the beginning had a real good story, characters, visual style and music. You sound like a drama queen.
"The special effects are getting better".
No. They are getting busier and more complex, but not "better". Miniatures and practical effects will always look BETTER than the computer generated crap they make today.
The crew risk the lives of 2000 colonists to rescue a couple of people? Where did they find these people? The home for the terminally befuddled? That's like a current day passenger jet pilot landing the plane on a highway to pick up a friend.
The worst part of the movie IMO was when a female soldier is killed by an Alien while cleaning up in a washroom. It was so ridiculously predictable as to follow the Horror movie rules from Scream. Later someone goes to check on her, finds her dead, and the Alien kills again. Immediately afterwards someone else goes to check on the now two missing soldiers and we get a literal double take of discovering the first dead soldier. WTF Ridley Scott?! Did you forget you already showed that exact scene or forgot in a bout of senility?
"You don't care about the characters." That's probably because they're IDIOTS. What moron goes onto a fresh planet they've never seen before without some sort of hazmat protection?! "Well, our BS scanners say the atmosphere is fine; no need for encounter suits!" Everything about their planetfall tactics was such complete idiocy, one wonders how they were allowed to go into space at all. As soon as they went to the planet's surface without any environmental gear, I stopped caring about the movie. I was ROOTING for the Xenomorphs! Star Trek gets a pass because they have technology that screens out alien bacteria and such (as silly as it is). The Alien franchise gets no such pass.
I was furious watching this movie. The silly supervillains plot origin for the xenomorphs totally undermines what made the original so good. Awful. Ridley has little understanding of what made Alien so good.
That's because he only directed it and had no control over the script (Oh, how I miss O'Bannon and Shuster). Unfortunately, like George Lucas, he does not understand the film he himself directed and is now too important to have people checking his ego up.
Well, we can tell when you don't like a movie... I wouldn't give it that bad a review, but it sure was crappy... What the hell were they thinking..???. Somebody once told me, if you take nothing, make an effort and it turns out crappy... Try harder... If you take something that has potential, has avenues to explore, doors to open, the raw materials on hand in front of you, to be and or become something wonderful, or entertaining, or possibly great, and it turns out crappy...Then you have committed a travesty to mankind... And it's really hard to get out from under that shadow... Yup it's been awhile since they did one of these that actually blew you outta the water...And the un-Godly amount of money they spend.... You would think those investors would see the ship sinking as their feet was getting wet...
Special effects improve, while stories don't, for the same reason a decentralized market economy outperforms a top-down managed economy. Special effects represent the effort of hundreds of geniuses. But the story is slapped together by a handful of "experts".
No doubt stories would be improved if the writers polled special effects crews for ideas and feedback.
I found it kind of amusing because all the characters always behave in the most stupid imaginable way. Discover a new planet? Immediately take your helmets off and let yourselves get infected with an alien virus. Somebody got infected and is coughing blood? Let him cough blood on your face and then bring him back on the ship without quarantine. And so on and so on...